Posts by vivalavida

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The text for the day is SUREAL!!!!!

by elderelite in

dig the text for today... beyond sureal... cognitive dissonance at its worst!!!!!!.

textforthursday,august12,2010.

notbelieveeveryinspiredexpression,buttesttheinspiredexpressionstoseewhethertheyoriginatewithgod.1 john4:1.. .

The text for the day is SUREAL!!!!!

by elderelite in

dig the text for today... beyond sureal... cognitive dissonance at its worst!!!!!!.

textforthursday,august12,2010.

notbelieveeveryinspiredexpression,buttesttheinspiredexpressionstoseewhethertheyoriginatewithgod.1 john4:1.. .

vivalavida

I've always hated how they blatantly go beyond what is written. The Bible text is very clear and was written in the first century:

A sound rule is found in the words of the apostle Paul: “Do not go beyond the things that are written.” (1 Cor. 4:6) Yes, we should not go beyond the things that are

written in the Bible or, by extension, beyond the Bible-based counsel written in the publications of the faithful and discreet slave. w08 4/15 1:18, 19

So, basically anything TODAY that explains or clears up or, in anyway or form, twists, stretches or shrinks the meaning of something written in the first century, is going beyond what was written. Paul didn't say, do not go beyond the things that are going to be written in 2000 years. He said, do not go beyond the things that ARE written. Even in his time, they were already written.

They always try to include their OWN interpretations in the things that ARE written and don't want the rank and file to go beyond that. But they ALREADY did it. By writing whatever they write in the first place.

And I can prove how they themselves go beyond what is written. For example, Genesis 3:4,5 reads:

4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.”

Read what God said to this:

22 And Jehovah God went on to say: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and

actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite,—”

But here is what the Watchtower from Sept. 1, 2010 on page 11

Satan began deceiving mankind at the very start of human history. For example, he deceived Eve into believing that she was not subject to the laws of her Creator

and that she could “be like God, knowing good and bad,” that is, deciding for herself what was good and what was bad. (Genesis 3:1-5) That was the first great

deception, for even though humans were given the freedom to choose what they would do, they were not created with the ability to determine for themselves

what is right and what is wrong.

So, I wonder, If God did not accused the Devil of having lied in this particular case. Why reinterpret the whole thing? And go beyond the things written there?

Just ranting!

BTW, I do find the article very very good. I used it to talk with my still in 17 year old son. I could ask him to read that article and he did. I could then use the information there, like the statement that ALL can be deceived, to point to him that even the GB could be deceived. And that they want him to use his mind to not just accept everything they say, but to investigate, with the purpose of making sure. At least it gave us an opportunity to talk, without him shutting down immediately, which is the standard behavior.

Vivalavida

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Typical email exchange I just had with a JW

by jwfacts in

most of the emails that i receive from jws are short and to the point - i am wrong and jehovah will soon exact vengeance on me.

they never identify where i am wrong.

here is a typical one.

vivalavida

Mary, that article you mentioned, one could really think that it was written by somebody wanting to open the eyes of the rank and file... it they would only apply that information across the board, including their own already held beliefs...

vivalavida

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As a JW kid, did you wish you could join the girl guides/scouts?

by highdose in

jw
friends

also known as cubs and brownies i belive.

i always wanted to join them when i was a child.

i had freinds at school who were in and loved hearing the tales of what they got up to.

vivalavida

I did!

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Favorite MOVIE SCENE - any genre - your pick!

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

jw
friends

.

i realized i was hi-jacking another thread so i thought i would start my own topic.. one of my favorite movie scenes is the "to tip or not to tip" scene in reservoir dogs.

i don't care for all the blood in tarantino movies but he is, without a doubt, a genius.. .

vivalavida

Definitely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V63txiofBm4&feature=related

In my opinion one of the best scenes of all time...

Vivalavida

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August Kingdom Ministry- Britain PDF

by yknot in

credit to fokyc!.

august 2010 our kingdom ministry-pdf!.

see bottom of page.

vivalavida

Have you noticed how the WTS uses a type of NLP when, for example in paragraph 3 of the first page they put this in quotes: "get out in service and stop making excuses!"? which basically can be interpreted as a subliminal command which, for the people who do not do it, ends up in a guilt trip.

Notice also that that IS the answer to the question for that paragraph!!!

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C'mon ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cantleave in

we can beat em..

vivalavida

Well, in Germany we are happy with the result...

But I don't know if it is gonna last long with Argentina coming at us like an 18 wheeler!

Vivalavida!

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There was no central governing body in the first century - Here is proof!!!

by vivalavida in

reading this in 1 cor.

14:26-33 proves that there was no centralized governing body that provided all truths in the first century.

here is the quote:.

vivalavida

Very interesting and different point of view. Thanks George for the link. I enjoyed it.

VLV

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There was no central governing body in the first century - Here is proof!!!

by vivalavida in

reading this in 1 cor.

14:26-33 proves that there was no centralized governing body that provided all truths in the first century.

here is the quote:.

vivalavida

Witness,

Maybe lots of those prophecies and revelations are reflected in the non-canonical books that did not get picked up or got destroyed after 'christianity' became the official religion and the 'fathers' of the universal church decided what was acceptable and what not.

Vlv

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There was no central governing body in the first century - Here is proof!!!

by vivalavida in

reading this in 1 cor.

14:26-33 proves that there was no centralized governing body that provided all truths in the first century.

here is the quote:.

vivalavida

George, do you have a link?

Vivalavida