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  any problems with this 607 response from Elder PO

  by besty in

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  back in may 2007 i got this response from my brother who later acted as chief witness for the prosecution at our kangaroo court.

  in fact he travelled 1000 miles round trip to do so.

  he was motivated :-).

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  "Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah's day is coming exactly as a thief in the night."

  -1 Thess. 5:1, 2 (1969 Kingdom Interlinear)
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  PROCLAIMERS OF GODS KINGDOM!

  by Number1Anarchist in

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  2. beliefs

  ok, what article in the proclaimers book makes you vomit the most?.

  pg.

  68 part of paragraph 2.. as a result, after the summer of 1917, a number of congregations of bible students were split into two groups, those loyal to the society and those who were easy prey to the smooth talk of the opposers!.

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  This one:

  "C. T. Russell was a man of positive convictions. Convinced that Christ's invisible presence had begun, he was determined to proclaim it to others." Pg. 47, first paragraph at the top of the page.

  Why does this piss me off? Russell was a false prophet, and instead the Society whitewashes all his false prophecies, as IF to say that ALL the "positive convictions" of false prophecies could bring any sort of GLORY to God Himself! It DOESN'T matter if anyone has all the "positive convictions" in the world... If you proclaim falsehoods in the name of God, then you merit the punishment that goes with false prophesying.

  In ancient Israel, if someone was false prophesying, the people wouldn't just go "Oh, but he is such a nice man. Let's not stone him. Plus he seemed sincere about his convictions." LOL...
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  Local Radio DJ says Jehovah's Witnesses are worst religion in the world ...

  by troubled mind in

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  2. friends

  if you are a person that loves getting presents !!!!!!!

  hahaaha

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  I've never received a wrapped-up present from my family. I never understood all that BS talk about how "you can give presents all year long, and you don't have to wait until a special holiday" crap.
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  Did you understand doctrine when you were "in"?

  by halcyon in

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  2. beliefs

  did you ever actually understand most of the doctrine when you were a jw?

  or did you think that you didn't understand it because you didn't study enough?

  that's what i thought about paradise earth.

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  I guess you could say I knew about most of the doctrines, but I never understood the why. As in, Why is this scripture literal and the next one figurative? And, Why in the hell do you jump from one side of the bible to another to explain a doctrine?

  It always boggled my mind. Then I figured it out: To be a JW, you don't have to understand it, you just have to repeat it. Like a parrot.
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  Any Deer Park/La Porte/Baytown people here?

  by civicsi00 in

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  2. experiences

  are there any people from these areas in texas?.

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  Are there any people from these areas in Texas?
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  Anybody here from the Eaton, Ohio, area?

  by StAnn in

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  2. experiences

  since we're getting ready to wind down, thought i'd see if there is anyone on this board that i grew up with.

  i've been in the following congregations in sw ohio:.

  eaton.

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  civicsi00

  I'm not, but some of my family still lives in the north-eastern parts of Ohio. Have you ever been or do you know anybody from the Port Clinton area?
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  Aug 15th WT - Pg7 par3 - it's right there in plain sight

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  paragraph 3 of this typically un-self-effacing article is incredible for 2 reasons, 2 reasons jws are unlikely to be awake to and will more than likely be blind to.. .

  first of all the wts very grandly state that "jehovah and "the faithful and discreet slave" deeply appreciate all their past and present contributions to the kingdom work.".

  firstly, the wts have put their organisation in the self-assigned role as the "faithful and discreet slave", which we'll come to in a second.

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  You also have to remember that that scripture is repeated in almost every piece of literature they produce nowadays (especially the Study articles). They (the WT) repeat that scripture enough times that it's become implanted in their brains to not think about anything outside their box.
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  1914 The End of the Gentile Times?

  by sacolton in

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  did the watchtower claim that the scripture at luke 21:24 had been fulfilled?.

  they will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations.

  jerusalem will be trampled on by the gentiles until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled.. .

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  Yep, Gentile Times ended, according to them. But then God supposedly organized a group of people on Earth to proclaim that the Kingdom had been established in heaven.
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  How Jesus Returns?

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you believe that jesus returned invisibly, i'd like to know why you still cling to that wt dictate.. but my question is more for those who believe the return is yet to come.. according to scriptures, jesus appeared to many people after his resurrection, but the acension was not a "grand send off".. in acts it says that he will return in like manner.

  several scriptures say he will come in the clouds with great glory; that does not seem like the way he left, at least from what we have of scriptural infomation.

  do you think that all will see his coming, but that he will personally appear only to his followers?.

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  I believe that when he does actually return, we will be able to VISIBLY see him. I think those scriptures about his return were meant in a literal sense, not figurative. I just hope the Watchtower is around to witness his return. It'll be laughable to see how they struggle to explain that one!
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  Scholarly support for 607bce ?

  by wobble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mentioned to a bro.

  who is supposed to be answering some of my "concerns" with wt teaching that all the non-witness refs.i have seen to the fall of jerusalem place it twenty years later at 587-586 bce.. he maintains that some scholars support 607. does anyone know of a reliable scholar ,who is a recognised expert in this period,who does support 607 ?.

  i am well aware that it makes no difference,as the bible nowhere gives us 2520 years,but i am fed up with his assertions and would like to blow this one out of the water so i can ask him to please check his facts.. only help if you really have time ,it's not life or death.. many thanks.

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  The Gentile Times Reconsidered by Carl Olof Jonsson.

  'Nuff said.