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Elyse867
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Jehovah's Witnesses Are An Illogical People & They Should Be Embarrassed!
by minimus inquestion a witness in a very logical manner about their view of blood transfusions and blood fractions and see what you'll get.. ask a witness where in the bible it states that you can't talk to a disfellowshipped family member unless he or she lived in your home.. ask a witness why they need 2 witnesses to establish that a child has been molested but they don't need 2 witnesses to establish that a spouse has been unfaithful and that the accuser may now be free to "scripturally" remarry.. have a jehovah's witness prove to you that filling out a service report is necessary for a christian to have god's approval.. can you think of other proofs that the witness religion is totally illogical??
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Stupid Idiots at the meeting
by B_Deserter ini was at the sunday meeting today (i know, i know...) and i heard this one guy give a comment about how hollywood movies always portray rich people as happy and successful, so that's proof that satan controls the film industry because it's a lie.. .
i struggled to think of one recent hollywood film that portrayed anyone as being happy, let alone rich and happy.
if they made a movie like this guy was describing, it wouldn't sell.
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Elyse867
This is one of the things I always HATED regarding the JWs. If you did have money, you were ridiculed, looked down upon and everyone told everyone else that you were 'striving for material things.' My hubby and I own a janitorial service, yes, we clean toilets, and get paid good for it. We were inactive for quite a while, when one Saturday, the dubs knocked on the door. My hubby answered, and the 'brother' said, "Oh, I knew this HAD to be ----'s house!" It was a larger two story house, and we had a box in the driveway from a new big screen TV we bought. Then there was the Elder that always referred to my hubby as 'Donald Trump.' We really didn't even have that much money. It was probably that they could see that we're HAPPY, because we have a good RELATIONSHIP, and assume it was because we weren't struggling financially.... which we are now, mainly because we got into real estate before it crashed... so you know what they say now? Of course it's because we 'left Jehovah.' :twitch:
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PLEASE tell me I'm crazy!!!
by Elyse867 inso... hubby and i have been getting into discussions with a lot of people lately about the wts.
i want so bad to know what to believe... i don't believe that the 'truth' is the one true religion anymore, but i don't know what to believe anymore when it comes to certain things... what happens to you after you die, etc.
so, i've been praying a lot (i still believe in god) asking him to direct me somewhere, just give me something to believe in.
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Elyse867
You guys are so great! I have been doing research for so long and I know what I want to do, and need to do... it's just so hard, because my dub mom lives with me and my family, and and I don't want to lose her as my mom. It's so childish, but I also have a ginormous fear of her being disappointed in me. I guess THIS is what I need to get over. I know if I just sat her down and had 'the talk' with her, it would be excruciating, but liberating and freeing. How do I do this when she LIVES in my house?
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Elyse867
Sounds like fun! You should post in the Apostafest forum!
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PLEASE tell me I'm crazy!!!
by Elyse867 inso... hubby and i have been getting into discussions with a lot of people lately about the wts.
i want so bad to know what to believe... i don't believe that the 'truth' is the one true religion anymore, but i don't know what to believe anymore when it comes to certain things... what happens to you after you die, etc.
so, i've been praying a lot (i still believe in god) asking him to direct me somewhere, just give me something to believe in.
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Elyse867
So... hubby and I have been getting into discussions with a lot of people lately about the WTS. I want SO BAD to know what to believe... I don't believe that the 'truth' is the one true religion anymore, BUT I don't know what to believe anymore when it comes to certain things... what happens to you after you die, etc. SO, I've been praying a lot (I still believe in God) asking him to direct me somewhere, just give me something to believe in. So hubby and I and the kids went out for lunch today, and who do I see but an older 'sister' who I actually really liked when I was little. She was like a grandma figure to me. Of course, she starts in on the questions... then the 'it's not too late' speech. I walked away feeling like a disappointment and feeling guilty. Convince me that this is NOT God's answer to my prayers, please?
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DO JWS BELIEVE IN HYPER-EVOLUTION?
by badboy infor there to be such variety of animals,wouldn't their have to be hyper-evolution?.
some animals in the same species have different numbers of chromosomes.. it is reckone that only 6 genetic changes(nucleotide?
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Elyse867
I've never understood why you can't believe in both. I believe in God and evolution to an extent. I do believe God is the Creator. I don't believe in the big bang... that whole thing is retarded. I do believe though in species changing over time, adapting to certain things, etc. It doesn't mean God didn't create them. Look at people... the majority of them are increasingly less intelligent. :) One wonderful example is the idiots at the FDA releasing the new nasal spray--- Veramyst--- "Side effects include nosebleed or nasal sores. Nasal fungal infection, glaucoma, or cataracts may occur." AKA- We'll fix your allergies, but f*ck up your eyes and nose... ALSO on the commercial it says across the bottom of the screen in small print: "The way VERAMYST works is not fully understood." ... wow. Go ahead and release in into the general population. Nice.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Are An Illogical People & They Should Be Embarrassed!
by minimus inquestion a witness in a very logical manner about their view of blood transfusions and blood fractions and see what you'll get.. ask a witness where in the bible it states that you can't talk to a disfellowshipped family member unless he or she lived in your home.. ask a witness why they need 2 witnesses to establish that a child has been molested but they don't need 2 witnesses to establish that a spouse has been unfaithful and that the accuser may now be free to "scripturally" remarry.. have a jehovah's witness prove to you that filling out a service report is necessary for a christian to have god's approval.. can you think of other proofs that the witness religion is totally illogical??
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Elyse867
A reply to the meat question... In the Bible, God gave Noah permission to eat animals, as long as they were properly bled, and treated nicely. Throughout the 'old testament' there are rules about how to treat your working animals... i.e.-- when your animal is milling the grain it is not to be muzzled, so that it can eat some of the grain if it's hungry. SO REALLY the question is here--- Why do JWs eat meat from factory farms where the animals live in terrible conditions, shot up with 300+ drugs, hormones and antibiotics,(resulting in cancer, diabetes, and thousands of other conditions when we eat the animals) then tortured before being inhumanely slaughtered for yummy meals? That goes a little against God's rules I think. Plus, factory farming is one of the biggest contributers to global warming, and let's not forget that 'God will bring to ruin those ruining the Earth.' Just MENTION the word vegetarian or anything about helping the environment to any dub and you'll more than likely get an earful about us being in the time of the end, the Earth won't get better, God gave us 'dominion over the animals' yadda yadda yadda. Plus, you'll get laughed at OR brought to the Elders to discuss your new vegetarian religion. I've had this discussion with my mom so many times, and she agrees with me about animals being treated to wrongly, and agrees that it is probably something 'detestable' to Jehovah, yet she continues to eat meat with the attitude that she's not torturing the animal or polluting the environment, and it wouldn't help if she stopped anyway. JWs are some of the most pessimistic people I've ever met. Oh, BTW, yes I'm a vegan, tree hugger. So go ahead and un-like me now. ;P But I'm not the shove-it-down-your-throat type that gives us a bad name. I got my fill of that being raised a dub. ;P
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Elyse867
I'm Hemet... born and raised. Ick
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So... is everyone here an x JW? Or currently??
by Elyse867 ini'm a fader myself.... mentally exhausted from thinking of all the reasons why i've given up the "truth" and then the whole "what if" bs... anyway, welcome me, i'm new.
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Elyse867
LOL @ "crotch of righteousness"
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Elyse867
Just wonderin' :)