Posts by BreakingAway

I don't find this "satirical" article, or the comments regarding abuse of cats by some members here, to be very funny at all.Abuse an animal in front of me and you'll win a trip to the hospital.

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Like a Lollipop!

by LouBelle in

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that song by lil wayne makes me wanna dress up / down, heels and shake my money shelf!

dont know what he's saying sometimes, other parts are 'naughty', but the song is hot hot hot!

sexy hot.

BreakingAway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzxky8TqkU4

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The amazing intelligence of crows

by inkling in

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if you haven't already, check out this amazing video of some remarkably clever crows.. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/joshua_klein_on_the_intelligence_of_crows.html.

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[inkling].

Oh, and this "just shows how close to the end we are !" After all, Jehoobie had to allow time to demonstrate that even intelligent crows would not be able to create a government that could solve all of our problems.Still, I think I'd rather live under crow rulership...

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The amazing intelligence of crows

by inkling in

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if you haven't already, check out this amazing video of some remarkably clever crows.. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/joshua_klein_on_the_intelligence_of_crows.html.

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[inkling].

BreakingAway

So I guess it took FIVE men to "outsmart" ONE crow.

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Another question for elders/ex-elders...

by Mickey mouse in

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...do the society instruct you to destroy notes taken during judicial committee cases?

did you ever keep any for any purpose?.

mickey..

BreakingAway

All notes are kept and placed in an envelope with the "publishers" name on the outside.The names of the three brothers on the committee are also written on the bottom outside of the envelope along with the date and the action that was taken, disfellowship or reproof.The sealed envelope is then placed in the congregation file which is kept locked; each elder has a key to the file.

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Does anyone remember the pic about the apostates at end of 1000 yrs.....

by chrisjoel in

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it was a picture about those who would take a final stand against the new world order like a camp outside of the true worshippers.

so satan would be let loose for a little period and then anyone who agrees with satan ...ends up looking like keith richards with earings and is deserving of death.. anyone remember the pic?.

BreakingAway

You know, if they were to change that picture by dimming down the lights and exchanging the sticks for lighters....it probably would look like a pretty wild rock concert !

Take me down to the Paradise City...

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-Are "apostates" more strict on WBTS doctrine than active Witnesses?

by Awakened07 in

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or: "common responses to criticism, by active jehovah's witnesses", which i could also have called this topic.. .

-a video i just saw on youtube made by an active witness took me down memory lane a bit, and reminded me of how i used to think and respond to some common criticisms of the jws.

as i started writing this post, i had planned to put this person's thoughts point-by-point, but it turned out he was pretty much only covering one common critisism.

BreakingAway

We use the term "cognitive dissonance" rather often, and for good reason.It well describes how many, current Witnesses,and those on the way out, feel.It's: "An uncomfortable feeling or stress caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a fundamental cognitive drive to reduce this dissonance by modifying an existing belief, or rejecting one of the contradictory ideas."

So the comments as expressed by this 'active Witness', is pretty much a mixture of this dissonance and the resultant apologetic hypocrisy.They say they DON'T follow everything....and then they make statements like this:

"We don't have to follow every single word that the Watchtower society says.

I believe it is completely inappropriate for a Christian to go against what the FDS says, because they are the anointed of Jehovah.

This pretty much says it all right here.So if they think it's COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE to go against what the FDS says, then they DO need to follow "every single word".If not, what are those words that can be disobeyed ? Would you like to tell us, the FDS, which single words are okay to ignore ? Maybe you can tell friends which of these words are worthless ?

Then they make this statement:

When I see that their teachings go beyond the things that are written in God's inspired Word, I do not agree with it, but I don't go and start preaching against it. I know that Jehovah's spirit will guide us eventually into all truth."

Really ? You don't agree with it ? But you still won't talk about it ? Because these MEN would disfellowship you , right ? Because you would be going "against it" what they said.And those who talk about it should be disfellowshipped because they're going against it, even though you don't agree ? You agree with their decision to disfellowship your brothers and sisters who don't want to follow "every single word" but you're not following men, even though it was men who made this rule ? It was these men who proclaimed THEMSELVES to be the FDS.Thomas openly expressed doubts about the very MESSIAH but wasn't disfellowshipped.Peter even denied Christ, but the FDS says sending your kids to college and talking about it will get you removed as an elder.Openly proclaiming you will NOT follow every single word will get you DF'd.Making JW videos on youtube is agianst the Society's words.This person is quite simply an apologist, and a hypocrite at that.But then they've learned from one of the best.

Oh....and that example of Saul is one of the most tired pieces of dreck the WT and it's apologists use.That example does NOT apply to what they think it does.Why ? It was talking about killing.David simply wouldn't KILL Saul.That's it.However, David DID speak out about SAUL.And DAVID left his "brothers and sisters", the org, and fled to the wilderness because THEY wanted to KILL him !!! So then, yes, SAUL could be likened to the Organization today; EVIL and ABANDONED by God as NOT having His approval or spirit, so they are NOT God's SPIRIT DIRECTED ORGANIZATION.Even Witnesses must admit that just because someone has God's favor now, doesn't mean they ALWAYS will.Just look at what happened to the nation of Israel, they were cast off because "they left Jehovah" and killed the Messiah because they viewed him as an APOSTATE.

Such apologists are far more forgiving of the monumental "mistakes" of the FDS than they are of their very own "brothers and sisters, who they will gladly shun without even really knowing why.

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Hey bethelite monitoring this site

by Evidently in

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i dare ya..........just post and say your're there.......come on, i dare ya, just one post........nothing incriminating, just say "whas up aposties"!!!!!!.

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BreakingAway

You can rest assured that they are monitoring this site.They monitor many sites; that's why some have been closed down due to "copyright infringement".If anyone thinks that the Society doesn't fear anything, even from apostates, then they're rather naive.They monitor the news.They want to know what them 'postates are talking about.It actually gives them insight into why many JW's are leaving.People speak far more freely here than they do at a Judical Committee.They address some of these issues at Conventions, Assemblies, Etc.At times they say things like:"Apostates are stepping up their efforts." How do they know that ? A letter from heaven by angelic messenger ?

They talk about APOSTATES a LOT,a WHOLE LOT.They're a corporation, and like many corporations, they send out PR people to help to improve their image, counteract bad press, and turn some back to the company so as not to lose a consumer base, etc.They very much believe in "Theocratic Warfare".Plus, they're obsessed with being God's sole channel on earth and they don't want anyone interfering with that.After all, when you've got a superinflated ego and believe the universe revolves around you; you want to keep things that way.

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Watchtower Comments - MISSIONARY INTERVIEW

by V in

watchtower comments interviews lance (awakened at gilead) gilead graduate (2003) and former missionary.. see all videos and subscribe to watchtower comments here.. part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enkkm_aa_j4.

BreakingAway

I just wanted to say that these are truly outstanding videos.The production quality is great and Lance's well spoken, intelligent and reasonable demeanor will have a real impact on those who are seriously contemplating these same issues.