Posts by martinwellborne

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I think the noose just tightened a bit.

by 5go in

we had an interesting local needs.. first it clearly stated if you are not making all the meetings you will not make it in to the new system period no exceptions.

they twisted the story of the red sea to make an example.

saying you can not disobey once, or else you be left stuck in the bottom of the red sea.. from now on the elders will be making shepherding calls on those that are not attending regularly.. also, it was stated that if you know of any not attending regularly.

martinwellborne

the noose may have tightened but my neck is no longer in the loop

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If You Were Wrong About The JWs, Maybe Your Current Beliefs Aren't True

by serotonin_wraith in

if you're here, it's likely you were once fooled by what the jws believe.. back then, i expect you thought you were smart.

you thought you could tell if you were being lied to.

yet, they got past your mental defenses and sucked you in.. knowing this, how can you be sure your current religious beliefs are true?.

martinwellborne

hmm, faith??

Thomas Jefferson said..."Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong."

good on him

4

talk of the town

by martinwellborne in

jw
friends

dear all.

talking to my mother today, who is still a witless, it seems everybody is so surprised that i plus wife and kids have decided we aint going anymore.

doh?.

martinwellborne

yes, journey, my mother is very direct too. it's a shame for her now since i am so like her.

MW

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Have you ever intentionally said crazy things from the platform?

by B_Deserter in

like have you said stuff that is just outright insane like "each and every one of us should be ready and willing to die for the society" purely in the hopes that you'd turn someone off?

i imagine for most of us trying to fade that would be the most difficult thing to do, but some people are really good at shutting down and just going with a flow, too.. .

i ask because it's the only possible explanation i can come up with for some of the really bat-shit insane stuff i've heard come from the podium.

martinwellborne

my "crazy" thing was actually an answer to a wt study question. i said, "would it not be great to have an apostle in the congo???

yet jesus reprimanded them, because they were not kind to children, they tried to say you are bothering us too much.

yet the past thursday night's meeting was all about how there is too much noise from children in the kingdum hell, too many toys, too many kids running around.

it makes my blood boil.

MW

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talk of the town

by martinwellborne in

jw
friends

dear all.

talking to my mother today, who is still a witless, it seems everybody is so surprised that i plus wife and kids have decided we aint going anymore.

doh?.

martinwellborne

Dear all

Talking to my mother today, who is still a witless, it seems everybody is so surprised that I plus wife and kids have decided we aint going anymore.

DOH?

She told me she is very disappointed we aint going.

She also kindly reminded me that the mem'l is some time in march.

Doh? Had to tell her that, that is another meeting we wont be going to!!!

MW

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This is what JWs really want you to do.

by martinwellborne in

join our shiny happy religion.

resign from that well paying job you have and get out round the doors.

dont get married that way youll have more time to work for us.

martinwellborne

This is what we really want you to do. Join our shiny happy religion. Resign from that well paying job you have and get out round the doors. Don’t get married that way you’ll have more time to work for us. Do not have any children, but if you really have to, make sure they do not play with anyone not a jdub, and they aint playing with our kids either, and you’ll get into trouble if they aint quiet at the kingdub hall. Stop being friendly with anyone not a Jdub, but always smile at them. Bolt your windows shut because when you are out round the doors someone may break in to check if your house is tidy!! Talk about people behind their backs, because they aint as "holey" as you are. Stop any hobbies you have and get out round the doors. Stop listening to music not by Jdubs, in fact don’t enjoy yourself at all unless we say it’s ok, and whatever you do, do not dance at a large social gathering. Do what we say, not what we do because we are Jehovah’s police and will prosecute you if you don’t “spiritually speaking of course.” Tell everyone jdubs all obey “Caesar’s rules” (but break all his speed limits in secret and don’t let anyone know how fast you really drive). Pretend you have love among yourselves, smile at everyone in the kingdub hall, but do not get to know them, because they might be bad associates. Tell all your family that if they do not become jdubs as well, then they will die, so you may as well stop talking to them now since they will soon be destroyed. Do not study the bible with small groups of your friends unless you ask our permission first, and then we’ll tell you, you aint allowed to. And most importantly Leave us all your money in your will. AND......Do not ever leave us or we’ll disfellowship you and try our best to destroy the remaining years you have!! Then we’ll tell all your jdub associates to ignore you or we’ll threaten them with disfellowshipping also. We will also hound you if you leave until you contemplate suicide. AND While we are on the subject go out and get more people to do all this as well, tell them we are the true religion and religion is a snare and a racket

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Your Cong = Which Songs or Band were "Demonic?" Did you toss albums?

by Witness 007 in

let me start = "kiss" stood for knights in satans service, "ac/dc" was anti-christ devils children.

"hotel california" was demonic who knew!

"yummy yummy yummy i've got love in my tummy.

martinwellborne

I actuall tossed the Fun Loving Criminals in the bin. and yet it was such a good song. what an a#* i was then.

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LATEST OFFICIAL WORLDWIDE REPORT ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES - WHERE IS IT?!

by steve2 in

by this time of the year, the previous year's worldwide preaching activity of jehovah's witnesses has usually already been published in the watchtower magazine.

for decades, the january 1st edition detailed the wordlwide activity, country by country.

two years ago, the annual report was shifted to the february 1st edition of the watchtower.

martinwellborne

82601, 85312, 88236, 92320, 97495, 103522, 107767, 109624, 113412, 117058, 120611,

125836, 126173, 127395, 129852, 132440, 132516(1996),

129288, 131981, 126535, 126297, 124828, 125398, 125797, 125546, 127206, & 2007 = 129482

these are the peak pubs figures from 1980-2007 for the UK to my estimation.

Interesting to note the sharp decline after the 1996 generation mags.

They have baptized 57997 since 1991 when there were 125836 pubs. should add up to 183833.

active pubs average 2007 122411. 60odd thousand missing in the UK. that's a lot missing those meetings.

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Are they a cult?

by TooBad TooSad in

at a recent one day assembly the following remarks were made by elders who had parts:.

"the watchtower is the main instrument that jehovah uses to instruct his people.".

( i wonder where the bible fits in?

martinwellborne

If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks, talks and acts like a duck then it's a duck

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Lots have asked for me to post why I did the research on Blood here is why

by skyking in

he asked why couldnt we auto-transfuse ourselves?

everyone at the study group wanted me to answer the question.

was it true jw's could take a transfusion without any sanctions in bulgaria kept flooding in my mind.

martinwellborne

An amazing post, congratulations on your research and on toughing it out. well done.