fokyc, your comment made me recall
how the elders are told they will be
the "princes" in the noo system...
seems that doesnt have quite the
attraction it used to have, eh?
chickpea
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WTBTS Elder & Ministerial Servant Problems
by JW GoneBad ini attended a recent ministerial servant k m school on the east coast and the main school instructor mentioned among other things (part entitled: 'objective of the km school course') that the total number of ministerial servants is seriously less than it should be.
in times past the ratio of m ss to elders was much more than it is today.. in the u.s. apparently the total number of elders is 88,500+ as opposed to m ss 65,000. the numbers show & numbers don't lie: the society is running out of spiritual men.
the instructor stated that this is a new downward trend that has (in so many words) the society worried.. the next speaker (part entitled: 'why we must be spiritual men') added that in his years as a traveling servant the pool of m ss has always been much, much larger than it is today.
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WTBTS Elder & Ministerial Servant Problems
by JW GoneBad ini attended a recent ministerial servant k m school on the east coast and the main school instructor mentioned among other things (part entitled: 'objective of the km school course') that the total number of ministerial servants is seriously less than it should be.
in times past the ratio of m ss to elders was much more than it is today.. in the u.s. apparently the total number of elders is 88,500+ as opposed to m ss 65,000. the numbers show & numbers don't lie: the society is running out of spiritual men.
the instructor stated that this is a new downward trend that has (in so many words) the society worried.. the next speaker (part entitled: 'why we must be spiritual men') added that in his years as a traveling servant the pool of m ss has always been much, much larger than it is today.
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chickpea
here's to the hurrying much of the downward spiral!
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I find it very hard to believe in a god
by Newborn inbut i find it equally hard to believe in the evolution theory .
so for now, i chose not to believe in anything but myself and love.
that was all.
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chickpea
i have a hard time believeing in a god too!!
there are so many from which to choose!
seriously, scientific inquiry will build a base upon which you can stand
as you struggle to grasp the enormity of the universe and the totally
wonderous serendipity that gave rise to this thing we call life, out here
in the back water galaxy, in a tiny solar system of a less than spectacular star!!believing or not believing in a god or in gods, whatever floats your boat!
just dont let "believing" stunt the life you could "be living"
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A deep deep hurt
by sooner7nc inwhen i was a couple of months old my father was put into prison in seagoville, texas.
the watchtower took him away from me for almost 2 years and destroyed almost all hope that he and i would ever have a normal relationship.
i say this because i believe the bond that we should have formed when i was a baby was severed forever and that's the damnable shame of it all.
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chickpea
"The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibran, a lebanese poet/author
from the chapter "Joy and Sorrow....
in the hopes (((you ))) find healing and boundless joyThen a woman said, "Speak to us of Joy and Sorrow."
And he answered:
Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?
And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?
When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.
Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."
But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.
Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.
Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.
When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.
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How long did it take you to get rid of your WTS library & literature?
by Think About It init took me a little over 2 years from the time i quit going.
been out 15 years now and no wts literature since.. .
think about it .
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chickpea
every time i think i have completely removed
that crap, another little pocket of it seems to
pop up.... literally, just this week i tossed a
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District Convention speaker recommendations 2011
by billyboy inevery year the wtbts asks a few select top elders / cos to "rate" the brothers in their circuit to see if they qualify to give talks on district conventions.
it would seem that the society are concerned that some brothers are being a bit faddy in shaving their heads.
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chickpea
are his selections of ties conservative
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Best wishes to those still struggling
by rebel8 inthe holidays can be tough for a few years while you're adjusting.
the guilt of participating in, and enjoying anything related to the holidays can be overwhelming.. you don't have to celebrate any holiday to be a non-jw.
that is entirely up to you.. you may feel like xmas could never have any meaning to you because of your history and pagan roots.
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chickpea
very thoughful, rebel8
i came into the cult as an adult,
having grown up in the traditional
xmas practices of an irish catholic
"broken family's" alcoholic dysfunction,
so the complete break from holidays
(thanks to the cult's insistence to abstain)
actually was not a bad thing for me, which
is why i think now, i really have no sort
of attachment or attraction to the furor
of the holidays post-cult.... i DO however
respect and accommodate others in their
attachment to same...my best advice and worth what is paid for it:
figure out what is comfortable and find your
own meaning for attachment to the season....(being in a cold frozen north american winter
environment, i tend to favor the promise of the
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Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....
by yourmomma inwhat im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.
even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.
here are the exact words:.
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chickpea
i'll be damned if i am going to devote
however many mindless minutes it
would take to listen to that bull$h!t...i know $h!t stinks without having to step in it
i know for me, when we missed a DC
at the usual venue (attending another)
an old-time sister told me the food
court had been staked out by "attendants"
to TAKE THE NAMES of the sheeple who
used it for their convenience, contrary to
the ORDERS of the b0rg, that was the beginning
of the end for me... adults, for zeus's sake,
being tattled on for disregarding a bull$h!t
command.... by other SUPPOSED ADULTS!this stranglehold strategy will send the younger ones
streaming out in droves....if their response to the damning
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regards to his family, who surely miss Ian...
he was truly a stand up guy... irreplacable
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Could you ever go back?
by MrFreeze innot that i'm thinking about it, even for a brief nano-second, but something i have thought about is this, is there any way you could go back and not have people look at you with the stink eye?
after admitting your true feelings, how in the world could people ever look at you the same?
if you were in the situation of welcoming someone back, would you be able to look past the errors?
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chickpea
only after a botched lobotomy
and massive cerebral accident
