in my search to find more info on the sexual abuse of my dead brother, i am wondering if there are any other forums like this?
he had told me over the years about a forum he was reading and would share things with me from time to time.
i have searched the membership lists here and i can't find him registered under any nicks that i know him by - .
In my search to find more info on the sexual abuse of my dead brother, I am wondering if there are any other forums like this? He had told me over the years about a forum he was reading and would share things with me from time to time. I have searched the membership lists here and I can't find him registered under any nicks that I know him by -
Are there any other forums I can search that are fairly active?
i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.
i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.
got out fairly young.
Thanks, I have spent a great deal of time today going through the membership database and I can not find him. Perhaps he read the site and didn't share - but that would surpise me because he is a lot like me - we don't keep our mouths shut real well. I can't see him reading here and not participating......
Again, thanks for all of your help and if anyone remembers anything, let me know.
It's been an interesting read this past 3 or 4 days - I am learning a lot. I had no idea that the Witnesses have changed so many stances on so many issues since I was active.....I always thought that "new light" BS was just so much BS!!! And I still do - either they have a direct line to G-d or they don't....fer cryin' out loud!
Gringa
i don't know why things in life happened...i don't know why i was born in the most destructive cults ever existed.
my childhood was so miserable...is not nice to see the other kids at your age celebrating xmas and birthdays and other holidays.
my whole world was somewhere between kindom hall and field service with my pioneers parents.. i hardly finished high school because i was supposed to live in the generation that by no means will pass way.
Just human - I, too, was born into the "truth". I know how you feel..... but, I truly see my childhood as a great learning experience for me. I am a strong, independant woman who doesn't let anyone control me, tell me how to feel or what to do. It has been my blessing that I was raised to be gentle and kind and honest yet I learned, also, not to let too much thought or care go into what people think of me. It has served me well.
When things seem so horribly bad for you, the loss of your children must cause you great pain, know that all things come in their season. You will get through this and you will be stronger and happier for it. Someday, too, your children may see the light and join you.
Look to the blessings that have been placed upon you though the cult. They are not all bad. They brought to me a love of all humans, a total understanding that all men are created equal. The JWs are not bigoted and for that, I love. All their evil, all their fear, gently and gradually subsides.... you will find your eyes opening more and more and you will become stronger and wonder how you bought all the BS, hook, line and sinker but know that it was a form of mind control We were force fed it from the day we were born.....
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Gringa
well i finally got the nerve up to send my mother, a jw, a christmas card this past weekend.
now i'm thinking of sending her a birthday card in feburary.
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I see no point in sending a card to your JW family. It is hurtful. Why do you want to hurt them? Let it go and be respectful of their beliefs, especially if you want them to be respectful of yours.
moments ago, i talked to my mom.. i told her that i was taking some time off from going to meetings and service.. the conversation went down hill from there.. as her usual she just dismissed my reasons as if they meant nothing.. i pointed to the child molestations as my main reason for leaving.. "you are being over-sensitive", "jehovah takes care of things in his own time", "rely on jehovah".
those were the catch phrases of the conversation.. a new one was: "what have you been reading?".
i have a hard time standing up to my mother.
UGH! What happened to my paragraph's in my last post!!!? I cut and pasted it from Word. Sorry, I know it is hard to read that way.
moments ago, i talked to my mom.. i told her that i was taking some time off from going to meetings and service.. the conversation went down hill from there.. as her usual she just dismissed my reasons as if they meant nothing.. i pointed to the child molestations as my main reason for leaving.. "you are being over-sensitive", "jehovah takes care of things in his own time", "rely on jehovah".
those were the catch phrases of the conversation.. a new one was: "what have you been reading?".
i have a hard time standing up to my mother.
Get use to the brothter's visits. I left the organization 35 +/- years ago and my mom still sends them to visit me! here is what worked for me - The first visit is the hardest. You don’t gain a thing by arguing with her or them. It is best to remain silent and let them talk and each time they press you for an answer, tell them that you have made your mind up – no more - no less. If the brothers show up and you answer the door – I didn’t answer my door and still don’t 90% of the time – do not invite them in. It becomes impossible to get them out of your house. Talk to them at the door. They will ask to come in, tell them that it is not a good time; they will press you to tell them when it is a good time. Tell them you don’t know and you will call them to make an appointment – which of course, you will not do. They will continue to press you and preach to you. Listen politely, as I do, even to my mother to this day. When pressed for an answer, I avoid making any direct comment for my reasons for leaving and not returning because that just opens the door for them to debunk your thoughts. After you have had enough, politely close the door – they will do everything in their power to try to continue to talk, but be firm, it is not a good time and CLOSE THE DOOR. I am sorry to say that I have found it necessary to distance myself from my mom and my oldest brother (now deceased) for most of my life. It is sad to leave them but they will harp on you until you can’t stand it. Instead of bringing families together, they distance them and create tension and hatred, at times. Over the years, I have had only 2 truly good conversations with my mom. Those times were great because as I got stronger about my own beliefs it made it easier to tell her the things in my heart and at those moments she did listen. It has broken her heart and I understand. She knows that she will not be spending eternal life in the new world with me. I understand her pain, I really do. But, I assure her that I love her and I believe that she is wrong. I have my own family now and I focus on them and it eases the pain of the loss of my mom. It is a hard time, it gets easier. My mom is now 80 and she has been gentler to me now that 2 of my brothers have passed. We spent a week together recently (first time since I left home at 18) after my brother died and she even eased up on her preaching to me. Slipped in a few things that I let slide…. It is ok now. I don’t mind, it is her beliefs and I respect them. I ask the same courtesy from her and I think, just maybe, she is trying to give it to me. She will never stop trying to save me, I understand, she has to. It is her job. For that, I have to love her. Gringa
as you know, blondie took a hiatus due to illness and she is still not at 100%.
watchtower scans are needed now since they are not easily available.. would anyone be interested in helping here?.
is the watchtower summary, as blondie has developed it, still of interest here??
Where are these summaries posted?
i used to visit this site on many occasions a few years ago.
in fact i was just lookin at some old posts which were dated back to 2001. doesn't time fly?.
this site really was a tool to help me comin to terms with myself as an individual, but at the same time there were many people who were angry with the wbts which in turn made myself angry with certain elements of the organisation and the way i was brought up.. i have not gone back to any meetings since i last visited although just lately i have considered the spiritual aspect to life and have been waying up the pros and cons of attending a meeting.
There are a million places to get close to G-d... like a mountain top, an ocean shore, a small child....you don't need the JWs to do that. I, for you, do not believe that G-d resides in the KH. I believe that the KH is everything in direct opposition to G-d.
My G-d is truly a loving G-d and would never hang the fear of everlasting death over ANYONE'S head. My G-d loves you no matter what you believe, as he created all of us - either through creation or evolution, why would he punish us for being his creation? Frankly, that would be a cruel joke. The fear that the JWs use is merely mind control and I hope you can find your spirtual side in places far more spiritual that the KH.
Sorry to be so outspoken but I sense you are here to hear what you already know in your heart or why would you be reaching out at this time in your life?
For goodness sake, THINK man! THINK!!!!
Gringa
i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.
i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.
got out fairly young.
Thanks for all the suggestions - My brothers SP account was suspended in May in Colorado and I live in Mexico. I have his hard drive but can't do the ISP search route - but thank you for thinking, thinking....
i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.
i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.
got out fairly young.
WOW - this forum moves fast... a lot of posts, a lot of folks....ok, I really gotta go, will check in tomorrow, for sure - Thanks everyone!!!!!
