While I would be suprised if they started DF'ing peope who didnt go out in service, the one thing I will say is that while I did used to hear about "your not a JW if you dont go out in service" stuff when I was a JW, it was usually done by fellow strict witnesses. This is the first I have heard it from a talk from a heavy at bethel, so it will be in print soon. I could be wrong, im sure blondie with her research skills could probably produce a "if you are not going door to door you are not a JW" quote. but i dont remember that being said officially. so i think WC has a point, and it will be interseting to see what happens. glad im not a JW anymore. even if I was, I would have still left over this bullshit that they are doing. crzy
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With the latest Australian Special Talk, we now have a complete picture of the Organizational Plan
by WingCommander inper this australian talk, found here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/203281/1/latest-special-talk-in-australia id say we have now seen the future........ ah yes........the governing body is now starting to show their hand, to begin to show their future plans for this false-religion-cult of fear and oppression.
it has been said on here for the last few years now, that with the elimination/combination of the book study at the kingdom halls instead of at homes, the introduction of new rule books (keep yourself in god's love) and the new elder manual that a "tightening of the reigns" was beginning.
and so, just as the members of jwd and the internet have written, so it shall be done by the governing body overlords.
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Video: Jehovah's Witness Elders Lie and Call Police
by leavingwt in(via free minds).
jehovah's witness elders lie and call police.
on october 31, 2010 jehovah's witnesses elders lie when asked by charles huff, also a jehovah's witness, if they shun ex-members of the jehovah's witnesses' religion.
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yourmomma
i liked the video, just dont say anything to him that even remotely sounds like critism, unless you want him to tear you an new asshole. lol
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-05-10 WT Study (GOD MIND)
by blondie inthat our thinking is far different from that of.
thinking?
what really was his thinking?
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yourmomma
did i read that right, the wts said Job, the ultimate story of selflessness, who under the most insane circumstances stayed loyal to God was "somewhat self centered"?
wow
they are some twisted mo fo's
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Fox News: 'Efforts to Replace Allegiance to God with Allegieance to Government'. Oh.. also, the reason the home book study were cancelled.
by whereami indon't you just love the fear mongering.. reason for why the in home book study was cancelled on minute 1:24.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgcrw993xck.
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yourmomma
where are these atheists "forbidding" things? only people i see trying to fobid things are religious fundementalists with things like gay rights. i hope atheists dont go the fundementalist rout and start trying to make everyone do what they believe like the xians.
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Well, I just finished reading Crisis of Conscience thanks to IssacAustin!
by Botzwana ini couldn't put it down!
very informative.
i agreed with it all.
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yourmomma
I have been in 3 congregations, and the first one I was in, was like botz described. They did not DF people unless it was last resort, even going as far as begging a young boy not to DA himself.
However the other 2 congs I have been in DF'd people like a bodily function, some for even refusing to meet with elders for a sheparding call.
So its really dependant on the local elders.
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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights
by XBEHERE inbesides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.
1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.
their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.
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yourmomma
What VM44 calls a pattern, to me looks like more and more holes busting through a dam. i just hope the dam breaks and crashes down on the watchtower society. in the information age its hard to cover up lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie.
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KS Blood-Handout s-55-e (PDF)!!!
by yknot inwe interrupt your forum posting for this 'just in' item...... it appears an elder has not locked his doctor's bag and a member of the conscious class has brazeningly swiped & scanned a copy of the s-55e.
(((thank you anonymous cc jw!.
for the purpose of our bethel audience i want to assure you no actual elder was willingly involved in the obtaining of this scan.. link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mnf7a0.
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yourmomma
I think this shows that the chance of any type of reform, any time soon is nil. they are getting worse, not better.
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Letter from elders
by Cynisister inthe local elders have been trying to visit me (my hubby still attends meetings and he has told them i don't wish to speak with them), they left a copy of a watchtower (on helping inactive ones to return) in my door when i was not at thome, and this last sunday asked my husband if it's ok to write me a letter saying this is what they have to do.
they can't freely stop by as we have large dogs that would keep them out.. does anyone know if this is going to result in my being df'd??
i don't want that to happen yet as my husband's parents who are quite elderly, would be devastated.
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yourmomma
Im going to have to disagree with the posters who are saying "Just saying you do not wish to speak to the elders is not a grounds for being DF'd."
I know of a person who was DF'd because he told elders who came to his house he didnt want to speak with them. Now, of course, this could have been a local thing, so the posters could be right, but I think we all know, the elders can do what they want.
Also, there has been rumors that inactive ones who refuse to meet with the elders for sheparding are considered as "disassociating themselves".
While this is still at rumor status, the elders in my area have at least done this once, so I have a hard time thinking they acted on their own. But it is of course possible.
So my point is, if you dont want to get DF'd, basicly do what leaving WT said. Say you have personal problems or better yet femal emotional problems, that will sending them running.
We are seeing a tightning of the grip from the governing body, they are phasing out the "family buisness" part of being DF"d and becoming more like Scientology, so it would not suprise me if they get rid of inactive ones who refuse to meet with the elders for sheparding.
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Did this talk ever happen?
by bottleofwater ini heard that in a certain congregation an elder was giving a talk about profanity and the need to avoid it.. he started then counting on his fingers different obscenities and saying them out loud.. those in the audience were shocked.
he was taken off the stage and had his elder book taken from him.. .
did anyone ever hear of this happening?
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yourmomma
i am laughing my ass off picturing this old elder getting on stage and counting on his fingers like "Fuck, Shit, Ass, Bitch", etc LOL
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I was BANE...I have an apology to most of you.
by Botzwana ini was bane and i think i got banned because everytime i tried to log in i couldn't.
i was defending the society as best as i could.
something has happened in the last few months.
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yourmomma
I would just like to comment first to Bane/Botzwana that I have the utmost respect for you coming here and admitting your mistakes and apologising. That is so refreshing and honorable. MUCH RESPECT TO YOU!
Secondly, I think that this is another clear case, just like Newagegamer on youtube, of when a JW apologist goes on the internet, part of the reason he is there no matter how fervernt of a defender of the watchtower they are, they are having doubts, otherwise they would not be on the net. And usually the more fire the more doubt they have.
Some apologist wake up, and disapear as they are embarrassed, but the honorable ones like Bane, do exactly what he is doing now.
Again, MUCH RESPECT TO YOU SIR!