I'm sorry for your loss. I think it's the cowpox /smallpox thing. My smallpox(Mormonism) vaccinated me against your cowpox (JW WT) and vice versa. If you accept that, then you could say that the cowpox (JW) is a bunch of BULL, and that Mormonism is far more deadly. Like smallpox, wouldn't it be nice to one day see the complete demise of the Moron religion?
FormerMormon
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Video Mormons Vrs DNA Great information to have in your arsenal
by skyking inthis video is great.
made me a little sick to my stomach remembering what it was like to have that epiphany you been lied to.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svfxsscxh8o&feature=related.
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Dress and grooming guidelines for LDS sisters ....
by Frequent_Fader_Miles incheck these guidelines out.
they're so detailed that even the acceptable color of underwear is given.
http://www.mtc.byu.edu/doc/sisterscouples.pdf.
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FormerMormon
What exactly is the scriptural / moral / ethical / religious reason for dictating what kind of undergarments someone wears?
Scriptural as in some words that actually came from diety, or scriptural as in some words in a book that people choose to live by and think come from god?
Joseph'S Myth was a genius, I believe. Deviant, diabolical, but definitely brilliant. It was interesting to discover how he cunningly brought together opposing parties and had them support him. Example: there was considerable anti Masonic sentiment in his day. There were parties both for and against these secretive groups. JS sought to get both parties.
For the Anti Masons... use the BOM to preach against secret combinations and secret groups. JS also married Lucinda Morgan Harris. Lucinda Morgan's husband had been killed by Mason's for revealing their secret rituals. Lucinda Married a Mr Harris. JS CONCURRENTLY married Lucinda as a "spiritual wife", hoping to bring her anti masonic following with her.
For the Masons: JS "revealed" a new temple ceremony strinkingly familiar with the masonic rites. Along with this, he taught that when Adam fell, God made some Jesus Jammies for them from coats of skin... I've often wondered why garments aren't made from leather????? Anyway, they are supposed to be a (ugly) reminder of the "moral" and religious covenants that are made in the temple and in church. Yes, wonderful promises of protection are made.
All garments are made/sold by the church.
Some people have Calvin Klien on their butt... I have Joseph Smith on mine...( no there's no monogram)
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Dress and grooming guidelines for LDS sisters ....
by Frequent_Fader_Miles incheck these guidelines out.
they're so detailed that even the acceptable color of underwear is given.
http://www.mtc.byu.edu/doc/sisterscouples.pdf.
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FormerMormon
Hey,
I represent what's going on here...
I've worn my "Jesus Jammies" (garments) for 23 years now. It's interesting to note that my HEAD is not covered by my garments. I have significant hairloss on my head, but the areas covered by my garments have no hairloss. It must be TRUE!!! I think I'm going to start wearing my garments on my head...
They are actually quite comfortable. I wish they came in different colors... although I heard a rumor about khaki colored being available for military types. While they are comfy, they are F ugly. Nothing worse than seeing my hotwife strip down... to her garments.
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Video Mormons Vrs DNA Great information to have in your arsenal
by skyking inthis video is great.
made me a little sick to my stomach remembering what it was like to have that epiphany you been lied to.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svfxsscxh8o&feature=related.
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FormerMormon
OK... so here's a Former Mormon comment for you... Yes, the Book of Mormon is a fake. DNA is but one of many nails in the coffin for the BOM. It is interesting to note that a couple months ago, newer editions of the BOM (doubleday) had a SIGNIFICANT change in the preface to the BOM. The sentence was regarding how the indians or "Lamanites" were the PRINCIPAL ancestors of the indians. The wording has been changed to say that they are AMONG the ancestors of the indians.
There was no announcement of the change. When it happened, POST MORMON groups saw it quickly and internet fanfare MADE the church acknowledge the change. Now they are saying "we knew all along that people migrated across the bearing straits. This isn't anything new". Of course this is complete bullcrap and a turn of doctrine. For over 170 years, we heard one story, now they are trying to spin and make it another story. In another 100 years, if the church is still around, I suspect the line will be that the BOM is a good instructional story --not attached to ANYTHING historical. How we spin to get there will be interesting.
The FLDS church (polygamist headed by Warren Jeffs) is an offshoot. Recently Warren confessed he never was a prophet. Search for it on youtube. With video clips of a "prophet" denying his office, you would think the church would dissolve overnight... not so. Cog diss is strong. I am convinced god himself can come down, say it's crap, and people would show the next week for meetings.
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Unexplained Mormon "miracles"...Unexplained JW "miracles"
by FormerMormon inok... lets get the ribbing aside.
our mormon "miracles" are more unexplainable than yours.... one of the many tools used by the morg to keep it's members active is the use of faith promoting stories involving apparent miracles... or the unexplainable.
there are unexplainable stories even in my own family.
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FormerMormon
I sure hope so.
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Unexplained Mormon "miracles"...Unexplained JW "miracles"
by FormerMormon inok... lets get the ribbing aside.
our mormon "miracles" are more unexplainable than yours.... one of the many tools used by the morg to keep it's members active is the use of faith promoting stories involving apparent miracles... or the unexplainable.
there are unexplainable stories even in my own family.
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FormerMormon
loosie...
Jesus Jammies was a term I first heard while on a mission in Virginia. It is a slang term for Mormon garments or protective underwear that Mormons get the first time they go thru the temple. They are expected to wear it the remainder of their days. Some General Authorities were known to preach a bit over the top concerning the NEED TO ALWAYS WEAR YOUR GARMENTS. Some (hopefully few) go so far as to sponge bath under their garments, replacing them one piece at a time when changing. Other, (also hopefully few) will wear them as best they can- even during intercourse.
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Unexplained Mormon "miracles"...Unexplained JW "miracles"
by FormerMormon inok... lets get the ribbing aside.
our mormon "miracles" are more unexplainable than yours.... one of the many tools used by the morg to keep it's members active is the use of faith promoting stories involving apparent miracles... or the unexplainable.
there are unexplainable stories even in my own family.
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FormerMormon
Quandry,
I like "Bring'em Young" too. These "terms of endearment" are used by post mormons. You would hardly hear them in an LDS setting. When we get our jesus jammies, we are told that if we live worthy and do not defile our "garments" that they would be a shield and a protection to us. Of course, we hear of the person in a car crash who was burned everywhere except where the garments were. I think examples of this happen in at least 75% of our stakes. We hear other stories of being physically saved by wearing garments... holy armor of sorts. When someone IS shot and killed wearing garments, that provides fodder for mormon rumor mills... he/she must not have been worthy. Either that or "it must be god's will that he/she dies now." This way the "story" holds if one is "saved" or dies.
We are also taught that they are a spiritual defense. This I believe. While I have never had sex with anyone but my wife, I could see some garment wearing member stripping down with a hooker, seeing/feeling his garments and getting an overwhelming pangs of guilt. If this didn't do it, the prostitute would be so freaked by this whacko and his weird, unflattering undies that she'll bolt for the door while the gittin is good.
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Unexplained Mormon "miracles"...Unexplained JW "miracles"
by FormerMormon inok... lets get the ribbing aside.
our mormon "miracles" are more unexplainable than yours.... one of the many tools used by the morg to keep it's members active is the use of faith promoting stories involving apparent miracles... or the unexplainable.
there are unexplainable stories even in my own family.
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FormerMormon
Burger Time...
Well there was this one time I was wearing my protective underpants when....... Ha...imposter. Any "true" mormon who has received his/her "Jesus Jammies" knows that they only "work" when you are wearing both garments. (Unless you bought the one piece). The underpants alone wont work, silly. It's kind of like the Wonder Twins "Wonder twins activate... form of godly armor". Cruelly enough, garments used to extend all the way to the ankles and wrists. There's fewer things more dissappointing than seeing your hotwife strip...to her garments. Talk about cold water.
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Unexplained Mormon "miracles"...Unexplained JW "miracles"
by FormerMormon inok... lets get the ribbing aside.
our mormon "miracles" are more unexplainable than yours.... one of the many tools used by the morg to keep it's members active is the use of faith promoting stories involving apparent miracles... or the unexplainable.
there are unexplainable stories even in my own family.
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FormerMormon
Quandry:
There was the one about the Witness woman at a door by herself. A man came to the door, but sent her away saying he wasn't interested. Later, it was found that this man was a murderer. When asked why he didn't try to kill this woman, he said that it was because of the two big men she had with her, one on each side.
Of course, it was explained that these "men" were angels that lead the preaching work. Of course, they protected her.
--Hate to tell you, but that's a MORMON STORY. The two guys standing behind "The Elders" were in fact three guys. --Specifically, they are three nephite apostles of Christs day who were promised they wouldn't die until the second coming. John the beloved is still alive too!!!
It would be interesting to see how many other MORMON stories you guys pilferred from us. LOL. How bout the one where a gang removes the car battery from some elder's car. The elders get chased there, get in and start the car. The gang freaks and watches as the elders drive away. The car dies when it get them out of danger then the elders see the missing battery. (I think this happened in at least 58 of our missions.)
Mormon hierarchy does not like people poking around unapproved sources of church history. The church publishes a comprehensive 7 volume set of church history. It is VERY sanitized. Footnotes/source materials are not cited in the work. Often when you do find the original source, ellipses are not used for discontinuous quotes. Words and sentences are heavily changed and sanitized. Leadership doesn't mind looking at church history, as long as it is their sanitized version. The church has had problems retaining official church historians and church history professors (Arrington, Quinn amongst many others) Joseph's Myth and Breed'em Young had problems keeping personal secretaries. Two secretaries that I am aware of died under mysterious circumstances.
DT... two good ex lds sites ... exmormon.org (not .com--.com is run by Ed Decker..ex lds but a certified over the board nut case)-- another great site I prefer is postmormon.org.
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Greater Noah and manure piling up in Antitypical Ark
by hamsterbait ini loved frankiespeakins thread on the original ark.. according to the wt the borganization is the antitype of noah's ark.. what does the real crap piling up in the prophetic pattern tell us for our day?.
the build up of methane would be so great the ark would have exploded.. the ventilation was so inadequate (only a 15 inch vent around the upper deck) causing suffocation to those below.. without refigeration most of the food would be going bad.. noah was so ignorant he thought the flood was global.. who is the "greater noah?".
how can christians use this prophetic pattern to find healthful words of truth for honesthearted ones?.
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FormerMormon
In Mormonism, we have an even better "tall ship" tale. In the Book of Mormon, it describes a group of people called the Jaredites who came over to America after the Tower of Babel. They built submarine type barges that were like a giant bowl or dish with another bowl or dish inverted and sealed up. "Mountain waves" could cause the barge to flip over. (Apparently god isn't a very good engineer) Magic stones, touched by the finger of Jesus before he was born and had a body, gave light inside and a small hole in the top AND bottom. These tiny holes could be unstopped to let air in. They were in these barges for 344 days beforwe they landed. They had animals, people, food, water and living fish (to repopulate the new world) with them. I can just see one of these things out for six months. A "mountainT wave" flips it over. Animals, food containers, water containers, shit, urine, EVERYTHING inverts. Think of the animals alone... horses, bison, deer, elk, moose, beaver, aliigators, cougars, llamas, birds... everything. Don't ask me how I be LIE ved it. Couldn't see the forest through the trees I guess. Talk about being full of "ship".
I don't know how long it takes the pacific or atlantic currents to circulate once, but I know it aint no 344 days.