Posts by Cynisister

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DC Talk on Generaton

by Cynisister in

as i will not be in attendance for this year's district convention, i would love to know exactly what the talk on the new meaning of "generation" actually states.

i visited my recently widowed mother (who found the "truth" when i was a toddler, and therefore i was raised in the religion - quit it totally 3 years ago) and had a lively discussion on the implications of this "new light".

she seemed really disturbed about all the "new anointed" ones coming out of nowhere.

Cynisister

To All,

As I will not be in attendance for this year's district convention, I would love to know exactly what the talk on the new meaning of "generation" actually states. I visited my recently widowed mother (who found the "truth" when I was a toddler, and therefore I was raised in the religion - quit it totally 3 years ago) and had a lively discussion on the implications of this "new light". She seemed really disturbed about all the "new anointed" ones coming out of nowhere. She is very knowledgeable amd reasonable, and appeared to agree with my conclusions. But she attended the convention yesterday (Sunday) and happily told me, when I phoned to check on her, that this talk explains everything, and it's nothing like what we talked about and concluded. But she said I have to attend and hear it for myself - which I will not do!

So, if anyone can post the info from this talk I would very much appreciate it!

(I will not get into this again with her, as she is quite elderly and it wouldn't be of any benefit at this stage in her life. She is already ostracized by my younger sister and husband because she willingly associates with one of their df'd sons (her favorite grandson).)

Thanks and my best regards to all,

Cycisister

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X-Witnesses and Faders - have you had a help them return visit yet?

by eyeslice in

with the watchtower study about helping 'lost sheep' return, i have been half expecting a visit.

i have mentally rehearsed how i should handle the situation, which is fairly tricky as i still have family in.

but no call yet.

Cynisister

Hello all,

The PO spoke with my hubby at a recent meeting and asked if they could just stop by to see me. He said "I wouldn't" (we have nice, big, barking dogs that would never let them through the gate.) So they phoned me and asked if they could come that Wed. nite. Now, this PO and his family have been good friends with us and our son for almost 30 years, so it was a bit uncomfortable for him when I said "No, I'm not wanting to have that conversation." There was silence for a beat of about 5 seconds, then he said he'll call sometime in the future to check. I told him he could do that if he wishes.

Then I told my husband what I said and he just said OK, whatever you want. He now knows he will not be able to persuade me into going to the KH, meetings, assemblies, etc. ever again, and isn't sure what to make of all that.

My son, recently divorced, is a "secret fader", and he is the one who told me I don't have to comply with anything the elders ask. I have taken that to heart and realized that I no longer respect the "authority" of the WTS and its reps. What a great feeling that is after 59 years of being in the BORG and to crawl out from that pressure!

Best to all!

Cynisister

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

Cynisister

I totally agree. When reading works by such authors of JW history like Penton, Gruss, T. Willis(White), you find that each and every quote is footnoted, referenced, bibliographied, etc. I guess I just notice the total absence of such references in the WT literature now, whereas I never questioned these before I was "enlightened".

I appreciate everyone's remarks on my question!

Enjoy your holidays!

C

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

Cynisister

I agree, and my research proves that Paul did not go door-to-door in the fashions of JW's. I just thought it was really arrogant of them to "quote" a supposed authority but not him, and very dishonest. But all the faithful would never question such a seemingly minor thing. I wouldn't have either 7 years ago. So glad to be free at 60!!

C

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

Cynisister

Thanks, that's very interesting!

C

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

Cynisister

In the Dec. 15, 08 WT (I just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par. 6 of page 17 as saying in regard to Acts 20:20: "Paul had spent three years in Ephesus. He visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people. (see vs 26) HERE IS SCRIPTURAL WARRANT FOR HOUSE TO HOUSE EVANGELISM,,," (capitalization mine for emphasis.)

Anyone know exactly who said this?? A Jw "scholar" perhaps?

Cynisister

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Did you ever really have true blue friends being a Witness?

by Cheetos in

looking back i don't think i really ever had any good friends being witness, cause if i would have some out of all those people and so called friends i thought i had, you would think one of them would have looked me up over the years.

what a farce.

Cynisister

My two best friends of all time are "worldly", acquired while still a practicing JW. Thinking of how horrible and ridiculous it would be for God to destroy them just because they are not witnesses was a factor in me breaking away, among other things.

Cynisister

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Did you enjoy being a JW meetings,field service ect??

by karter in

Cynisister

I can identify with Jack, as I would observe my sister and my mother-in-law gushing about what a wonderful time they had in fs, how they love it so much, etc. I would wonder why I didn't feel that at all. I am almost 60 years old and have been associated with JW's since I was a toddler (my mom studied and became a JW.) I pioneered as all good JW kids right out of high school should, (my mom now revealed to me that I had received an invitiation to attend the Parsons School of fashion Design in NY, but she naturally rejected that offer!) and I hated it so much! I was alone walking the blocks most of the time (did this for almost 5 years.) I would find ways to "fudge" my report and make good use of "rubber back-calls" - any oldtimers will know what that means. I would feel so guilty about hardly ever reaching the 100 hour a month quota, and received the dreaded "pioneer letter" to chasten me and "encourage" me to get my time in or else!! Pioneering gave my mom something to brag about, but she hardly ever joined me or helped me out when I was alone which was most of the time.

The only thing I can think of that was rather fun was when we (as kids) used to be asked to give demos at the service meetings. In those days, props, humor, constumes, etc. were allowed and always used for these skits. We laughed alot, but of course the WTS put an end to that - can't have fun at the expense of serious religious instruction!!

I have been fading for almost 7 years, and a few months ago "came out" to my husband to let him know I will never again go in fs, and will not submit to the meeting schedule demands ever again. He has virtually stopped asking me to go with him to the kh. The elders are now asking to make a "shepherding call" on me. I told my hubby that if they begin to really question me and my position, I will not back down this time. (The WT headquarters called my PO last year after they received a letter from me questioning the "new light on blood", and had him and another elder pay a visit to make sure Imy thinking was adjusted. I believe they just wanted to keep me from talking to others about it.) I sat and smiled and nodded during that last visit to pacify my husband,but I will not do that this time.

Anyway, there wasn't much I loved, but I was a dutiful dub all those years, making every meeting (played the piano accompaniment for the songs all my life) studying everything and making sure I read all the mags, etc. to the point where one time my husband accused me of being a fanatic and caring about other people more than about him (I worked, raised a son with whom I regularly studied, and had four bible studies at that time - no wonder he said what he did!)

I feel so free now1

cynisister

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

Cynisister

Will this never end??

Cynisister

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I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by jwblog in

when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.

i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.

i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?

Cynisister

You mention dinosaurs??? If they perished in a global flood, then that would put the event back in time scores of millions of years! This doesn't compute well with "Bible Chronology."

But more interesting to me is the discussion of the god of the Bible being a god of love. How can this loving God send ferocious bears to maul and rip apart small boys just because they made fun of a prophet? Would you have wanted to watch such a scene? Seems to me if Jehovah were really going to punish someone for this travesty, it should have been the parents, not the innocent children! (2 Kings 2:23)

And what of the 70,000 innocent Israelites Jehovah slew to punish David for the "sin" of a census? Even David said that "these sheep, what have they done?" If this was to teach us all a lesson in obedience, then the account at least should have explained what was so bad about taking a census? (2 Samuel 24;15-17)

Then what about the poor people who were ripped off their homelands by Assyria and transplanted to the soil of Israel? How could they know that just because they didn't worship this Jehovah (whom they probably didn't know a thing about) that he would send man-eating lions among them as punishment? Just imagine the mother looking out of her tent to check on her husband, or children, doing their chores, only to see them ripped apart and eaten by lions that Jehovah sent! A very loving god, indeed! (2 Kings 17:24-26.)

Cynisister