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A new Subliminal Message?

by gold_morning in

i never gave too much thought to the subliminal messages that seem to appear in the watchtower organizations publications.

some, i will admit seem to be done on purpose.i am not sure what it is all about.but.....long story short: i found in my front door a new track they are passing out.

it is titled:"a peaceful new world will it come?

so great to hear from you. I had my room and really wanted to go. I have a wonderful friend who lives in Florida. She has had surgery and is coming to see me for two weeks. Can you believe....52 weeks in a year and it falls on the time of the WNFJ convention. I really want to be there for her as she will have a cast on her arm.

This whole subliminal thing. I don't know. I have seen lots of weird stuff in their prints when I did some research on it. Some can't be denied. What puzzles me more is that I am sure the Organization knows all about the accusations over this and you would think they would check and double check their artwork.

I think it is scary stuff.

gold

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A new Subliminal Message?

by gold_morning in

i never gave too much thought to the subliminal messages that seem to appear in the watchtower organizations publications.

some, i will admit seem to be done on purpose.i am not sure what it is all about.but.....long story short: i found in my front door a new track they are passing out.

it is titled:"a peaceful new world will it come?

gold_morning

I have no idea why the link won't copy and paste. I see it when I paste it in my post!! I'm puzzled.

Try this link and it is the first link you see

gold

http://www.topix.net/forum/who/jehovahs-witnesses/TT95B1L356QIB5AAK

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A new Subliminal Message?

by gold_morning in

i never gave too much thought to the subliminal messages that seem to appear in the watchtower organizations publications.

some, i will admit seem to be done on purpose.i am not sure what it is all about.but.....long story short: i found in my front door a new track they are passing out.

it is titled:"a peaceful new world will it come?

gold_morning

HMMMM the link in my last post didn't come out. Here it is again

gold

http://www.jehovahswitnessonline.com/viewtopi...

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A new Subliminal Message?

by gold_morning in

i never gave too much thought to the subliminal messages that seem to appear in the watchtower organizations publications.

some, i will admit seem to be done on purpose.i am not sure what it is all about.but.....long story short: i found in my front door a new track they are passing out.

it is titled:"a peaceful new world will it come?

gold_morning

I'm so sorry....I don't have a scanner.

I have been looking somethings up and found these two links. Some of these images are really frightful. I don't get it. I found someother websites showing many more images.

I'm not sure why it was in my door. I would assume it was the typical...."not home so leave something"

I've been out of the organization for sometime. I have read about this stuff before, but I was amazed how this jumped out at me. If you have the tract you will clearly see it.

Gold

http://www.jehovahswitnessonline.com/viewtopi...

http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/jodrellbank/hype...

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A new Subliminal Message?

by gold_morning in

i never gave too much thought to the subliminal messages that seem to appear in the watchtower organizations publications.

some, i will admit seem to be done on purpose.i am not sure what it is all about.but.....long story short: i found in my front door a new track they are passing out.

it is titled:"a peaceful new world will it come?

gold_morning

I never gave too much thought to the subliminal messages that seem to appear in the Watchtower Organizations publications. Some, I will admit seem to be done on purpose. I am not sure what it is all about. But.....long story short: I found in my front door a new track they are passing out. It is titled: "A PEACEFUL NEW WORLD WILL IT COME?" There is the typical paradise picture of the world after Armegeddon. Immediately what grab my eye was the large rock amongst the flowers center bottom of the tract. It is a distinct head of a snake or ram/goat with it's ears back in the flower bed. It is so plain that it jumps right out at you. Has anyone noticed that? gold

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list allowable things with "pagan" origins here

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

i'm interested in developing a list of things jws are allowed to do that have "pagan" or otherwise "evil" origins in the eyes of the wts.

what types of things are you aware of?

so far i've got...... red lip stick (allegedly invented to distinguish prostitutes from non-prostitutes).

gold_morning

Egyptian mythology said that the dead should be embalmed

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this one thing i ask

by soulsearcher in

can some one tell me where i go when i die?

will i see a light and then hang in limbo?

can someone tell me whats turth?

gold_morning

First soulsearcher you have to figure out what a soul is to know if it goes anywhere. Remember they say the soul is just another word for the body. Is it?

"And he stretched himself out on the child three
times, and cried out to the Lord and said, "O Lord my
God, I pray, let this child's soul come back to him."
Then the Lord heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul
of the child came back to him, and he revived."

(HMMMMMM if the soul is the body...how is it this soul goes somewhere?)

Revelation 6:9-10

"When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar
the souls of those who had been slain for the word of
God and for the testimony which they held."

(HMMMMM how do BODIES get into heaven??????

Why would Paul say that if our earthly tent (BODY) is destroyed we have a place in heaven?

Jehovah's witnesses say soul NEVER means distinct from
the body or the individual person.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 disagrees.....
"May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept
blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Jehovah's witnesses say when the person dies, the soul
dies. But Genesis 35:18-19 says in the New World
Translation.."and the result was that her soul was
going out" (there goes that soul traveling again!!)

Jehovah's witnesses say that God did not create people
to go to heaven....
2Corinthians 5:1 says..."Now we know that if the
earthly tent we live in is destroyed, (our bodies) we
have a building from God, and eternal house in heaven,
not built by human hands.

I thought of this:

Here is Adams body laying on the ground. Just a body right? But when God brought him to Life he BECAME a living soul. He became who he was, to function the body. IF the soul goes out, the body dies... if the soul returns it lives.

So there is a body and a soul. Again FUNNY.... they spent so much time in the back of the NWT proving their soul theory. (yes theory) but did not denote one page on spirit!!!!!! Why should they. It would blow their whole concept of what we are!!!!!!!!! Tons and tons of scriptures on spirit and they want to say it is our breath!!!

The most important thing God gave us they took away. We need the Holy Spirit to intwine with Our spirit to accept Jesus into our lives. Paul said in 2Tim 4:22 "The Lord be with Your Spirit." Wasn't it the Holy Spirit that Jesus said would come and be IN US.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 says: "May your Spirit, Soul and body be kept blameless." Clear enough for me to see we are made of three parts, each with a purpose.

The spirit is not our breath. Zechariah says God forms the spirit of man within him!!

Isaiah says...at night his spirit longed for God and his spirit within him seeks him.

How can the spirit of men be breath when 1Corinthians says our spirit is capable of thought? It says who knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit that is in him. (HMMMM now they got "breath" thinking)
So man does not become a spirit...HE HAS a spirit.

That is why Jesus and Stephen could commit their spirit to the Lord!

If you come to believe that we have a soul and spirit that goes somewhere then we can read the bible to find out where it goes. So I did...and it goes to heaven...or hell.

gold_morning

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Society's viewpoint of other bibles

by Zico in

i like this quote, from page 145 of theocratic ministry school book about using other bibles.

'you must realize, however, that some bible translators have taken liberties with god's word.

their renderings may not conform in all respects to what was in the original bible languages.

gold_morning

Thank you Mrs Smith!!

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Society's viewpoint of other bibles

by Zico in

i like this quote, from page 145 of theocratic ministry school book about using other bibles.

'you must realize, however, that some bible translators have taken liberties with god's word.

their renderings may not conform in all respects to what was in the original bible languages.

gold_morning

Funny this topic keeps coming up.

I wish I was smarter to share with you what I heard this weekend. But you can get it on CD for about $4.00

They had a talk on this topic at the "Witness Now For Jesus Conference" this past weekend. It was Friday at 2pm and it was given by Keith Walker. The title was "What's in a name --Pronunciation or Reputation" I believe you can get them from Blue Mountain Christian Retreat by giving the date and time of the speaker and his name. It is WELL WORTH ORDERING THAT ONE! It really cleared up the name issue.

so it would be: October 20, 2006 (Friday) 2pm speaker: Keith Walker title: What's in a Name Phone# for retreat is: (570)386-2154

It may not be available for order on line yet.

gold_morning

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Could a JW be disfellowshipped for lack of "Faith"?

by JH in

jw
friends

lets say that a jw tells an elder that he prays and nothing happens.

then he tells the elder, that after praying so often and asking for reasonable things, i don't believe anymore that god answers prayers, because i was honest in my prayer and god didn't grant me what i wanted.

i was just wondering if an elder could see this as "lack of faith", which then could be a good reason to disfellowship someone.. .

gold_morning

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WITH THEM.

At the "Witness Now for Jesus Conference" this weekend there was a testimony of a witness dying with cancer in the hopsital. The witness had a Christian nurse and before she died she accepted Christ.

The elders found out............... and disfellowshiped her two weeks AFTER she was ALREADY DEAD!! Now you tell me they have not taken the place of Christ. Wasn't our judgement before the Lord when we die. There specialty is in casting stones...dead or alive.

You can take every single scripture proclaiming salvation comes through Jesus and put Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in it's place. They say the correct words, but practice their own doctrine.

Scary!!!!

gold_morning

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