Posts by Robert7

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Take the Beliefnet test... and post your results!

by Awakened at Gilead in

an atheist friend (never a jw) sent me a link to this fun test:.

http://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/quizzes/beliefomatic.aspx.

turns out i am 100% secular humanist, but unfortunately i am still 5% jw!.

The one thing keeping me from total atheism/theism

by easyreader1970 in

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i hate riding the fence.

if someone asked me right now if i believed in a creator (or creators), i would still say i don't know, in spite of everything i know about current science.. what's my hangup?

believe it or not, it's one thing.

Robert7

I quite possibly am a closet Atheist :)

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The one thing keeping me from total atheism/theism

by easyreader1970 in

jw
friends

i hate riding the fence.

if someone asked me right now if i believed in a creator (or creators), i would still say i don't know, in spite of everything i know about current science.. what's my hangup?

believe it or not, it's one thing.

Robert7

"Evolution and Atheism are both theories......."

Don't read into it too much, as I am an Agnostic myself. All I meant is that Atheism means that part of your beliefs of the origin of the universe and life is that you do not believe in any God, and since it can't be proven, isn't that a theory?

And the only reason I say I'm Agnostic and not Atheist is for this reason. If I cannot disprove God, there's a "chance" there is one, of some kind, and therefore I am Agnostic.

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The one thing keeping me from total atheism/theism

by easyreader1970 in

jw
friends

i hate riding the fence.

if someone asked me right now if i believed in a creator (or creators), i would still say i don't know, in spite of everything i know about current science.. what's my hangup?

believe it or not, it's one thing.

Robert7

Why do you say atheism is a theory?

I guess only in that "knowing there is no god" is just as unprovable as "Knowing there is a god". I'm basically on the same Atheist page as you, so I'm not trying to convince anyone of God, but I just want to admit to uncertainty.

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New Jehovah's Witness forum on Facebook (w/real JW's)

by middleman in

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it's called "jehovah's witness facebook forum".

check it out could be interesting........................ .

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51298429787#/group.php?gid=51298429787.

Robert7

LOL!! Did you notice the picture of the tract "Who will conquer the world in the 1970's" And someone commented "Who did conquer the world in the 1970's?"

Boy do they not realize this tract likely was predicating the 1975 fiasco!

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Why I am an atheist

by Awakened at Gilead in

someone (a born-again exjw) on youtube asked me why i was an atheist... i crafted a brief response... it follows:.

1. religious reason: there is no proof for god outside of the bible.

once i dropped my belief in the bible, the judeo-christian concept of god fell apart like a house of cards.

Robert7

I agree with everything above, except that since we cannot disprove God, I'm Agnostic and not Atheist. Just terminology I guess :)

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The one thing keeping me from total atheism/theism

by easyreader1970 in

jw
friends

i hate riding the fence.

if someone asked me right now if i believed in a creator (or creators), i would still say i don't know, in spite of everything i know about current science.. what's my hangup?

believe it or not, it's one thing.

Robert7

I also agree with "I don't know". Evolution and Atheism are both theories that cannot be proven as much as God cannot be proven.

There is a big possiblity that man has no idea about creation, and there's nothing wrong with trying to find out, but there's also nothing wrong to say that we yet don't know.

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Did You Ever Think That The Demons Were After You?

by minimus in

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i know so many jws that love to think satan and his demons are after them.

if they were being "persecuted", it was because of the devil and his demons.

if they got an ache or pain, it was because satan was trying to "discourage" them.......did you think the demons were trying to get you, too?

Robert7

I always felt that most (if not all) people who felt anything positive from God/Holy Spirit/Jesus/etc was all psychological and not actually truly spiritual. The reason I did is that people in ALL religions have this feeling.

So if JWs were the truth, then why are people in all religions having these religious moments? Either it's psychological, or as the WTS would say, it's demons (never believed that)

If JWs were not the truth, then either all religions are right, or they're all BS and it's all psychological.

Same goes on the negative side with Satan and his demons. The ones who seem to have issues with them seem to be convinced they exist and therefore it's a self-fulfilling prophesy. Why don't Atheists ever get attacked by demons?

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Did You Hate Going In Service???

by minimus in

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i really thought it was a stupid waste of time!

especially weekend mornings and holidays..

Robert7

Only went once a month because my wife made me go, and to have a token number of hours. I resented losing my one day a week to sleep in and have a day off.

I also saw how fruitless the effort was, and how inefficient it all was. Would spend over 3 hours from when we started getting ready in the morning till we got home, and talk only to a handful number of people at most.

Many times we would work with another couple with kids so we could do return visits, and take a very long break, and still count 2 hours.

What a waste of time.

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36 rules/teachings that "go beyond what is written"....in bible

by oompa in

witness rules and teachings that go "beyond what is written" in the bible............(feel free to add more here or on other thread).

1. hatred of men's facial hair and sideburns ...................................(privileges withheld if you have too much or wrong style) also length of men's hair.

2. clothing requirements................. ties/jackets/suits mandatory for ministry/talks/privileges....and sisters can freeze there ass of rather than wear a hilliary clinton pantsuit or they can not be on the school.

Robert7

You need to add shunning to the list...