Posts by Marjorie

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The appeal process is a joke!!!

by jakesnake82 in

it was pretty messed up.

i appealed and two of the three elders on my appeal commity were from our sister congregation.

when i turned in my appeal letter, the elder i turned it in to tried to talk me out of appealing.

Marjorie

Does he need them no matter what to fulfill prophecy about the good news being preached over the whole inhabited earth?

Jake, God doesn't need us, or an organization. He will utilize whomever he sees fit to utilize, at the time of his choosing. We are the ones that need HIM.

I'm sorry that your totally biased, one-sided disfellowshipping was your method of discovering the deceitfulness of the WTS, but as has been suggested before, it's better that you get out now. It's a false prophet, Jake. And you know Jehovah's punishment for false prophets (Deuteronomy 18:20). The evidence is out there:

http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/1800s.htm

http://freeminds.org/history/dates.htm

http://www.jwfiles.com/outline.htm

http://www.geocities.com/paulblizard/dates.html

http://blueletterbible.org/study/cults/exposejw/preface.html

There are also many threads here at JWD that will help help get a clue on what we all have been dealing with while in the WTS: that it is a cult. It hurts, but that is the truth about 'the Truth'. We are all your friends here, Jake. Whatever you decide, we'll be here for you.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Act Like Christians. They Act Like Jews

by minimus in

jw
friends

because witnesses are less into christ than they are into moses.

when christ talks about turning the other cheek, witnesses talk about why the faithful should shun anyone that doesn't see eye to eye with them.

the jewish religious leaders were condemned by christ for their biases.. why do jehovah's witnesses treat disfellowshipped ones as if they were "dead"?

Marjorie

Gee, thanks chickpea! No description could possibly be more apt.

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The appeal process is a joke!!!

by jakesnake82 in

it was pretty messed up.

i appealed and two of the three elders on my appeal commity were from our sister congregation.

when i turned in my appeal letter, the elder i turned it in to tried to talk me out of appealing.

Marjorie

Hi Jake. I'm sorry you were abused so. *huggles*

Should it be recorded?

You are not allowed to record a jc meeting. In order to protect yourself, you must record the meetings by stealth. And that will only serve to provide you with irrefutable evidence of judicial misconduct for yourself or any of the other brothers or sisters that may care to hear. If the jc finds out, you will be charged with breaking yet another rule. Damned if you do, and double-damned if you don't.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Act Like Christians. They Act Like Jews

by minimus in

jw
friends

because witnesses are less into christ than they are into moses.

when christ talks about turning the other cheek, witnesses talk about why the faithful should shun anyone that doesn't see eye to eye with them.

the jewish religious leaders were condemned by christ for their biases.. why do jehovah's witnesses treat disfellowshipped ones as if they were "dead"?

Marjorie

You know, the WTS has always had this weird fascination with the OT Hebrews. Take for example that whole Beth Sarim mess.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Act Like Christians. They Act Like Jews

by minimus in

jw
friends

because witnesses are less into christ than they are into moses.

when christ talks about turning the other cheek, witnesses talk about why the faithful should shun anyone that doesn't see eye to eye with them.

the jewish religious leaders were condemned by christ for their biases.. why do jehovah's witnesses treat disfellowshipped ones as if they were "dead"?

Marjorie

Mazel Tov! Mazel Tov! You guessed it, you win the prize!

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Will you have a bag of popcorn ...

by compound complex in

1) at the movies?.

2) at home in tele's company?.

3) in the park to share with the birds (unbuttered).. 4) anywhere at anytime?.

Marjorie

CoCo: Yes to all, plain buttered being my favorite.

sad emo: It's easy to make popcorn at home. I make mine in a non-stick wok on top of the stove. Try it.

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"The measure of TRUE friendship"

by nomoreguilt in

jw
friends

it has been said that if you can count the number of friends you have on one hand, you are fortunate.figures of speech in the org are "the friends".

this being the case in a "brotherhood of love", then the statement i cited is debunked, is it not?

wouldn't we therefore need thousnads of hands, an infinite number of friends?

Marjorie

I would like to say that I practise unconditional friendship.

But I don't.

I will not befriend someone who practises pedophilia. Or anyone that aids or abets a pedophile. On that point, I am inflexible. Or someone who is cruel to people and animals. Or a racist. Will not happen in my book, unless that person learns empathy. There is a saying: 'A true friend knows all your faults, and is still your friend'. For the most part, I believe that is true. And a true friend will help you overcome your shortcomings. But that saying does not help the WTS. I know too many of its dirty little secrets. One was bad enough, but there is a whole torrent of them, with no end in sight.

How many of these so called "FRIENDS" can you lay your heart out to? Where does understanding and forgiveness come into play before they narc on you. And will they narc on you? Forget this keeping the cong. clean crap, ARE THEY REALLY YOUR FRIEND??

Jesus said that a slave is not greater than its master. You know what kind of master the WTS is. How can you expect its drones to behave any differently? But try to remember that these people are in a cult, and therefore most of them don't know how to carry on a healthy relationship. Or through indoctrination, have forgotten how. But look in the Bible at the example of Jesus. Jesus would not behave in this manner. The Society cannot claim to be the exclusive mouthpiece of God, since it refuses to follow in the footsteps of His Son. They go beyond scripture. And still, as I write this, I know of several elders who are kind to me and my family. They are kind to everyone. They are truly friends. So you see, not everyone toes the party line 100%. But those people are few and far in-between.

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Ready to out myself...

by Mickey mouse in

...well, to you guys at least.

i'm a long time lurker, still a jw (for how long i don't know?

:-s) and at a bit of a crossroads.. you've probably heard the story before.

Marjorie

Hi MM, and welcome to JWD! (Another newbie...heh heh )

Seriously though, you are not being a coward. You are being too hard on yourself, though. You are simply considering all your options, which is what a prudent person does. Whatever you decide, we will be here for you.

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is there a "disfellowshipped list"?

by ruined in

i stopped going to kh when i was in my early 20's.

i'm now in my mid 40's.

i've done many of the things for which a person should be df'd over the many years since but i don't know whether i am df'd.

Marjorie

Hi ruined, and welcome to JWD! My sincerest apologies for not noticing earlier that you are a fellow newbie like myself!

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is there a "disfellowshipped list"?

by ruined in

i stopped going to kh when i was in my early 20's.

i'm now in my mid 40's.

i've done many of the things for which a person should be df'd over the many years since but i don't know whether i am df'd.

Marjorie

Yes, even after I was re-instated, the beatings continued.

Ah nomoreguilt...*huggles* It makes me sad and mad to read that they treated you (or anyone) this way. That's one of the reasons why I left. This shunning stuff is EVIL.