You know, if I were convinced that the JWs genuinely cared about me, I wouldn't mind some openness about my life (and vice versa), But they don't really care about people. It's all about control.
Marjorie
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Jehovah's Witnesses Are A Nosy Bunch, Aren't They?
by minimus ineveryone needs to know what you're doing, who you associate with, what movies and tv you see, whether you plan on extended schooling, what you do on weekends, etc.. they want you to account to them.
if they believe you're acting not quite in accord with their standards, they'll inquire about your business.. the elders believe they are literally, god's gift to everyone else.
they expect total openess in every matter including your love life, your goals and your secrets.. like i said, witnesses are so (too) nosy..
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Marjorie
Only a few. They were the few bright spots in an otherwise dreary, fear-driven, Puritan-like religion.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Are A Nosy Bunch, Aren't They?
by minimus ineveryone needs to know what you're doing, who you associate with, what movies and tv you see, whether you plan on extended schooling, what you do on weekends, etc.. they want you to account to them.
if they believe you're acting not quite in accord with their standards, they'll inquire about your business.. the elders believe they are literally, god's gift to everyone else.
they expect total openess in every matter including your love life, your goals and your secrets.. like i said, witnesses are so (too) nosy..
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Marjorie
Were they pornographic books oe something??
Nope. I just have regular books. My interests pretty much run the gamut (ancient history - manga - crafts - religion). But no porn.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Are A Nosy Bunch, Aren't They?
by minimus ineveryone needs to know what you're doing, who you associate with, what movies and tv you see, whether you plan on extended schooling, what you do on weekends, etc.. they want you to account to them.
if they believe you're acting not quite in accord with their standards, they'll inquire about your business.. the elders believe they are literally, god's gift to everyone else.
they expect total openess in every matter including your love life, your goals and your secrets.. like i said, witnesses are so (too) nosy..
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Marjorie
Urg...yes, they are.
A few years ago, I moved to a new residence, and instantly became the talk of my new congregation, when it was discovered that I had (gasp!) non-WT books in my possession! One elderette even proclaimed rather disparagingly that I was "addicted to books" (!) Well, how did the rest of the cong. know about this? Because said elderette was (unfortunately) also my landlady, and she had blabbed to the whole cong. about my belongings! Needless to say, as soon as the lease was up, I got out of there as fast as I could!
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What's worse - celebrating Xmas or....
by passwordprotected in....following a false prophet?.
jesus and the bible do not at any point mention birthdays, xmas etc.
however it does have clear rules regarding following false prophets.. .
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Marjorie
The Bible's stance against false prophets is quite clear:
Deut 18:22
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'
Eze 14:10
And they shall bear their iniquity; the punishment of the prophet shall be the same as the punishment of the one who inquired,
Rev 19: 20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Birthdays:
There are no explicit sanctions against birthday celebrations in the Bible.
Christmas:
There are no explicit sanctions prohibiting the celebration of Christmas in the Bible. On the other hand, there is more than enough historical evidence to link ancient Christmas celebrations with the celebration of various winter festivals, most notably Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (Birthday of the Unconquered Sun - Roman), Saturnalia (Festival of Saturn - Roman), and Shabe-e Yalda (Longest Night of the Year Festival - Persian). However, for most people, the pagan symbolism that was once conflated with Christmas has long been forgotten.
What's worse, celebrating birthdays, Xmas, or following false prophets? Well, concerning birthdays and Christmas, it is up to the discretion of the individual Christian. Remember Paul's words in 1Cor 10:31:
Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
As for false prophets, the only road that lies before them is death.
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Goodbye to JWD ... hello to JWN !
by Simon inas i announced some time ago, jwd as it is will not continue .... ... but .... it's clear from people's comments that they do like the site and many would like it or something else like it to continue.. one issue was the forum software that was self-developed and not really in a good state to hand-over to anyone but i've been working on that and can now reveal the first release of what will probably be called jwn (son of jwd):.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/.
it is still work-in-progress so not all features are enabled yet but it will allow you to browse the site in a similar way to this one and it is pointing at the same database (although because of the way the caching works, new posts made on this site won't appear immediately).
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Marjorie
Bless you, Simon.
JWD has helped countless lives that have been shattered by the Society's endless deceptions, so I'm glad to see that the site will continue. It's not indulging in hyperbole to say that some of us regard this site as a godsend.
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Marjorie
I didn't like being single. I definitely prefer being married...
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Even if its not the truth its still the best way of life!
by mtsgrad incomplete the following:.
even if its not the truth...... .
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Marjorie
Even if it's not the truth, it still is one of the most successful religious scams in modern history.
That has to count for something, right?
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Was There A Specific Event That U Remember-- Realizing It Wasn't The Truth?
by minimus infor me, it was a combination of things over a long period of time.
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how about you?
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Marjorie
ditto minimus....wasn't one thing..just a bunch of things I kept putting in the back of my head and then finally it just couldn't be pushed back any further.
Double ditto.
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How was you Christmas ?
by oldflame inmine was the best i ever had.
22 years ago my ex wife committed parental kidnapping of my son.
i could of pressed charges then but decided not too because i did not want my son to grow up hating me for it.
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Marjorie
How wonderful for you, old flame! I thank God for you, too!
And FHN, spending the day with your grandson sounds wonderful, as well. I bet that your grandson didn't mind that there were only two toys!
WTW, I'm sorry that you spent Christmas alone this year. I hope that in 2008, the situation changes to your liking! (And then you'll be back to boasting...)
For our family, there was tragedy: my mother-in-law passed away on Christmas morning. I worry about my husband; for some people, having a loved one die on a such a prominent holiday is especially painful...