i've been reading this forum for the past 5 years, today during christmas, my wonderful daughter "brooke" aka whyamihere finally got off her a$$ to show me how to post.. what next, you say?
who the hell knows, but i am here, while i finish my beer..... i lost my train of thought - yay for chistmas and that wonderful sweet necture that god created called southern comfort.. by the way, brooke is typing this, because i can't read while under the influence.. singing out to all my fellow apostates!.
remember this - jesus is god!.
welcome to your first post i started not long ago either......was always a reader....seemed like a mission to actually sign up and begin posting......now.....nowimaddicted..................
i encourage you to share your JW experiences and knowledge............................
i encourage you to drink your southern comfort...........and relax my friend
im in rehab at the moment have one for me please..................................................
kind regards & welcome
talking with my father (exjw) me (exjw) family 60% still jw he mentioned that fallen angels can no longer materialise into human form................. he says they they were forbidden after the flood........... i do watch, read and speak to many ex-freemasons (illuminati) and they are very confident that even today fallen angels have the power or means to take on forms if they wish to (even human) ............................... what do jw's use as a scriptual basis for this argument......................????.
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talking with my father (exJW) me (exJW) family 60% still JW he mentioned that fallen angels can no longer materialise into human form................. he says they they were forbidden after the flood..........
i do watch, read and speak to many ex-freemasons (illuminati) and they are very confident that even today fallen angels have the power or means to take on forms if they wish to (even human) ..............................
what do JW's use as a scriptual basis for this argument......................????
so, did you ever buy into bothering people on the holidays?
i personally could never bring myself to do it.
after all, everyone has a right to there own own privacy on such days.
were my congregation was the 25th was almost like an encouraged day of service.........all us JW's with smiles and grins.....we had the truth and we had the right to disturb families on this special day.......armed with watchtower and awake........ i was dragged from door to door only to watch the other kids opening thier magical and most wonderful presents......... i mean i knew they were all going to die at armagedon...... but it almost seemed worth it..!!!..............................
i do not understand how intruding on anyones custom on the day of celebration and informing them they are doing wrong is loving, caring or for that matter Godly........
so i was searching the net and found something.. march 1, 1979 wt... "put faith in a vicrorious organization!
i just saw that headline, does anyone have the article for that or the summary of what it said.
also do they still teach that?
i once counted how many times they said "Jehovah" during a drama at assembly = 97 times its sucha great talasman every JW's lucky charm word........
did you ever ask yourself:.
if we are living in ''the last days'',why doesn't the wts advertise free literature over the internet,newspaper,or radio?.
why don't they use all the funds they collect from the sale of all the real estate properties and give away free literature since this is ''life saving work?
i asked an elder why they dont help feed the poor let alone give litrature for free..... he said "we do many wonderful works fo our fellow brothers and sisters around the world......he promised to send me some clippings of such evidence and for this i was excited.....a few weeks later i recieved two clippings one about Katrina in whom they gave clothes ect (later found out this was some type of scam where they were claiming their costs against insurance companies and actually made a huge profit) the other some JW's in germany or something..........
i think the general consensus is that if you are not a JW than your not going to survive aragedon anyways.......................................................... "so why waste money on that !"
i remember being trained at the door my most important line: "the watchtower and awake for just 40c just to cover the printing cost"
printing cost 40c = bulls#@t
some jack ass put up a video of nature scenes with the nwt audio of the "fear inspiring day of jehovah.
" so i took the idiots sound track and put the rightful pictures with it that show the reality of their sick doctrine of the "day of jehovah.
" your comments would be appreciated.
i really enjoyed that video.............it said they joke about what houses they will take........ i remember if we encountered someone at the door who new their bible (usually a christain) on the out of the drive way we would whisper and joke almost gleem in the fact that they were going to die at armagedon......actually the term; "they'll or he'll die at armagedon" is something i remember very very well......
i grew up and armagedon had not come yet ..... what happend??? and where did my protective bubble go???? is it in storage............ who pays the fee????
what jw beliefs did you make up for your own sanity?.
for me it was regarding the flood.
instead of believing that god had destroyed millions of people, i imagined that because of all the violence, by the time the flood came, the only people besides noah and his family that were still alive were the nephilim.
i believed that when armagedon came we all had to get to the kingdom hall as soon as possible; otherwise our salvation was even more uncertain......i was also told and believed that during armagedon we would have "protective bubbles" around us watching the unfaithful ones die around us in the hall......"oh my gosh there goes brother McDonald he must have been commiting fornication"
i also believed that in the "new world" we could jump off cliffs get squashed but not killed....slowley rejuvinate and be back together in a matter of hours................
i was always fearful that there would be no sex i the new world because i was told as soon as the world was populated that Jehovah would let "nature change our parts and make them void" .......i like my penis
i know i've heard this a lot...that the december 25th date for christmas was borrowed from paganism.
i just came across this article which argues against that:.
http://touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v. personally, i have no problems with the idea that it could have been borrowed from paganism, but found this alternative explanation intriguing..
i am an ex-JW now follower of Yahushua Messiah and i still do not celebrate christmas simply because of its links and ties to sun god worship and countless other gods all who's birthday is on the 25th of december..............
was,if jehovah was going to bring about armegeddon to destroy the "wicked"humans who may live an average of 75 yrs +/-,who may not even know of him in their lifetime..why would he allow satan,who was directly associated with him,to exist for as long as he has?..seems to me,it would have been an instantaneous destruction because he already knew better..it would have been worse than blasphemy.. he even allowed him complete control over the earth to do as he wishes...also,if he isn't destroyed at some point,how would humans know?
no human can see spirit creatures..therefore there could be no proof that he didn't exist anymore(i.e a body).
another thing that has always bugged me about that whole scenario..why would "jehovah" the supreme creator,have the need to justify his right to rule,to a lesser spirit creature that he created...i liken it to a son telling his father that he knows better than the father about how the household should be run....sort of a moot point.
no human can see spirit creatures...........(ie: bodies)
why is it that JW's are convinced that fallen angels can no longer materialise into human form....???????
what is the scriptual basis for this ?