this election is over... no way that performance can't hurt the mccain cause... lol!
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bye bye republicans, at least she's "honest"... lol!
Sarahcuda -- oh PLEASE.
It's old news by now -- Nancy and Ann Wilson have wanted the McCain-Palin campaign to stop using their "Barracuda" song in their campaign events."Sarah Palin's views and values in NO WAY represent us as American women."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20223698,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontentcnn
view trailer.
from larry charles, director of borat, this film looks like it will be very interesting..
It opens in about half-dozen theaters here in the Twin Cities tomorrow night.
i think it was when it was announced that an elder arrangement would be practiced.. that shook the foundations of a lot of congregations..
In MY experience -- do you mean during my lifetime?
Probably the announcement in the mid-60's that this system had until approximately 1975, and then Jehovah would usher in the Kingdom. The sense of urgency changed things organizationally, reset life goals for a lot of people. For me I still thought the 'end was near' for many years after 1975, causing me to make many poor decisions.
when i first got assigned to the circuit work, the branch sent me far away to a rural circuit, they usually do that with the new c.o.'s.
i had 17 congregations, some of them were only 12 publishers.
no sound system, no stage, meetings in a persons home with no ac.
things make more sense, I dont have to twist things around to make sense of doctrines, I am not nervous around people who think differently than me.
Even though I was never an elder or travelling overseer, this quote above is something you and I definitely have in common. And living honestly and in harmony with 'what makes sense' is a much more sustainable life, and a better platform for the pursuit of happiness.
Of course every change in life brings uncertainty and adjustments. But you've made a really good change, and based on my experience the weird feeling will wear off over time.
I had lunch with an ex-JW here in the Twin Cities who has a zealous JW brother who is elder, exemplary family man, and pioneered for decades. He also ran a business that employed (from what I understand) dozens of JW's. No doubt he had a position of power and respect within the JW community. Just the mention of his name anywhere in Minnesota brings words of admiration from JW's.
Yet he wasted so much of his time and talent teaching lies in a spiritual desert. He could have had a tremendously successful career instead of managing a company of janitors. His brother called him "king of the anthill".
You are now freed from the confines of an anthill. It may feel a bit weird, because the anthill was so familiar. But there is so much more to life outside the anthill!
I thought (before yesterday's games) than this talk of an all-Chicago World Series is a bunch of hooey. The fresh Tampa Bay Rays have the home field advantage and should boot out the White Sox in a short 5-game series. And the Cubs -- they're still cursed. They're the most talented team in baseball now, but something always goes wrong for them.
I thought an all-L.A. series was much more likely than an all-Chicago series. (Then the Angels go out and lose the first game at home, so there goes my all-L.A. series.)
Joe Torre knows how to manage in the playoffs, but he didn't have much success in the last few years with an aging Yankees team. We'll see how he does with this bunch of trolley dodgers.
i was working night shift and my wife came home at lunch to wake me.
she finished eating and walked out the door.
almost immediatly there was a knock at the door.
Classic! Thanks for the laugh.
Oh to see the look on their faces when you said "DID YA MISS ME BABY?" LOL !!
first off, i apologize for the very unpolitically correct title to the thread.
the title that i wanted to make was this:.
will living with people who have serious and difficult to deal with psychological disorders cause someone else to experience mental problems of their own?.
Adding to my last post --
One time I quoted a scripture (one of Solomon's proverbs) to my then-wife "Mere oppression can make a wise person act crazy". I told her I wasn't claiming to be a wise person, but her actions and attitudes and constant accusations were oppressing me. So if such oppression can make a wise person crazy, imagine what it can to do an ordinary person like me.
So I understand perfectly why you harmed your cell phone. At least you didn't harm a family member.
first off, i apologize for the very unpolitically correct title to the thread.
the title that i wanted to make was this:.
will living with people who have serious and difficult to deal with psychological disorders cause someone else to experience mental problems of their own?.
Sorry to hear about what you're going through with a JW-believing wife who has a mental condition on top of it.
I can say that the answer to your question is "yes". Continuous exposure to someone who continually taxes your mental and emotional resources can build up anger, tension, and a feeling of hopelessness. It happened to me in my first marriage.
Does your wife really want the marriage to work? It takes two to make a delicate relationship like marriage work, and only one to screw things up royally.
Hang in there. Hopefully the steps you're taking will relieve some of the anger, tension and hopelessness.
it's good to see many, many churches dipping into their funds to help the needy, the homeless and providing food and shelter for those who need it.. what can be said of "god's organization"?.
what do they do to help people in these tough economic times?.
will they help you with food?
I know of a sister who was a regular pioneer and had cancer.
She lost her job and only had one car payment left before the balance was cleared. She met with the elders who were mostly well off.
Not one of them dipped into their pocket or the congregation funds to help this poor pioneer who had been serving for years.
JW's talk a good game about love, but as the example you cited shows, it's not universally practiced there. People aren't really encouraged to help each other in practical ways, because the organization wants people to focus on serving the organization. So in answer to your original question, what the WT will say is -- keep serving Jehovah, and he will provide for you. They frequently cite what King David wrote 'A young man I used to be, and I have grown old. And yet I haven't ever seen a servant of Jehovah begging for bread'. (The regular pioneer you mentioned above had a different experience than did King David.)
for about a decade, the watchtower was affiliated with the u.n. as an ngo (non governmental organization).
as an ngo they had to spread the word about what good the u.n. is doing, and regularly did so in its awake magazine.. the watchtower was never a "member" of the u.n., they were just affiliated as an ngo up until 2002 when machislopp's thread on this website and an article in the guardian newspaper in the uk blew the lid off their involvement with the organization they painted as "the image of the wild beast".. suddenly in '02 they dropped their membership, stating in a letter to the elders that the inappropriateness of such 'had been brought to their attention'.
by apostates and by the exposure in a widely-read newspaper.
For about a decade, the Watchtower was AFFILIATED with the U.N. as an NGO (Non Governmental Organization). As an NGO they had to spread the word about what good the U.N. is doing, and regularly did so in its Awake magazine.
The Watchtower was never a "member" of the U.N., they were just affiliated as an NGO up until 2002 when MacHislopp's thread on this website and an article in The Guardian newspaper in the UK blew the lid off their involvement with the organization they painted as "the image of the wild beast".
Suddenly in '02 they dropped their membership, stating in a letter to the elders that the inappropriateness of such 'had been brought to their attention'. (By whom ? By apostates and by the exposure in a widely-read newspaper.) They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
I don't know as much about the OCSE, but I believe you're right about their involvement. Other posters will likely clarify that.
