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  Why I love music, you can find a song for any situation, here is mine now

  by wanderlustguy in

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  2. friends

  if you don't know of one for you, try to describe the way you feel and someone might know of one for that.

  it defintiely helps me to play music when i am not doing so well.. chris cornell.

  ghosts.

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  Chalam

  Good idea! Will edit now before my 30 minutes grace run out ;)
  
  Stephen
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  i knew a dub that used to tell her classmates that they would be destroyed

  by looloo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this was in the 70s , im sure the kids parents wud have been delighted , what a "bad witness" they could have been "stumbled" did any of you do that?

  it is so sad that it wase ven put in a 5 year olds head

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  The dominant message I remember as a child was "Jesus love's you", but then we weren't JWs.
  
  No wonder Jesus said this
  
  John 10:10 (New International Version)
  The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Why I love music, you can find a song for any situation, here is mine now

  by wanderlustguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you don't know of one for you, try to describe the way you feel and someone might know of one for that.

  it defintiely helps me to play music when i am not doing so well.. chris cornell.

  ghosts.

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  Chalam

  Hi WT,
  Check this version! Killa!
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8NWqO85P6Y
  
  YouTube is great!
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Dating a JW and how to get her off the cult or becoming a member myself

  by svennibenni in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm sorry if i'm totally wrong here but i have a serious problem.. i met a woman in the company i work in via intranet.

  it is a very big company with offices all over the world.

  she moved to the united kingdom just a few month before we met.

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  True love is not easy to find but to get yourself out of being a JW could be much harder.
  
  I would tell you not to become a JW because your life depends on it. They will suck the life out of you with their rules and regulations, their fear and bully boy tactics.
  
  My belief is that you will not find one drop of spiritual life with them either, only death.
  
  The Bible says this
  
  John 10:10 (New International Version)
  The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
  
  But "Jehovah's Witnesses" prefer to talk about Jehovah, not Jesus
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Why I love music, you can find a song for any situation, here is mine now

  by wanderlustguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you don't know of one for you, try to describe the way you feel and someone might know of one for that.

  it defintiely helps me to play music when i am not doing so well.. chris cornell.

  ghosts.

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  Here's mine!
  
  Curtis Mayfield - People Get Ready lyrics
  
  People get ready, there's a train comin'
  You don't need no baggage, you just get on board
  All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin'
  You don't need no ticket you just thank the lord
  
  People get ready, there's a train to Jordan
  Picking up passengers coast to coast
  Faith is the key, open the doors and board them
  There's hope for all among those loved the most
  There ain't no room for the hopeless sinner whom would hurt all mankind
  Just to save his own
  Have pity on those whose chances grow thinner
  For there is no hiding place against the kingdoms throne
  
  People get ready there's a train comin'
  You don't need no baggage, just get on board
  All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin'
  You don't need no ticket, just thank the lord
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character...

  by digderidoo in

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  ...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.

  ", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.

  he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  Yes I understand some of your reasoning. I had a lot of troubles when reading the Old Testament and I was a new born infant in faith. It seems that God was almost double minded and I had difficulty reconciling the God of the Old Testament with that of the New.
  
  The WTS love the God of the Old. That is why they choose the name of Jehovah. They like rules and regulations, judgement, wroth, anger etc.
  
  I love the God of the NT. His name is Jesus, and He is love, He is peace, He is just, He is true, He is righteous.
  
  God in the OT is concealed, in the NT He is revealed. Jesus is the same as Yahweh in the OT "I am the Father are one" so as you get to know about Him you will see that they are indeed the same but from a different viewpoint. The God of love, peace, kindness, compassion can be found in the OT too.
  
  So my advise is this, if the OT is giving you trouble then read the NT!
  
  John 14:6 (New International Version)
  Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
  
  So you are going to have to get to know Jesus before you can understand the Father.
  
  My testimony is that I am doing this and I have no problems with reading the OY any more.
  
  Hope that helps!
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character...

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.

  ", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.

  he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.

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  If You Were Wrong About The JWs, Maybe Your Current Beliefs Aren't True

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you're here, it's likely you were once fooled by what the jws believe.. back then, i expect you thought you were smart.

  you thought you could tell if you were being lied to.

  yet, they got past your mental defenses and sucked you in.. knowing this, how can you be sure your current religious beliefs are true?.

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  Chalam

  Hi serotonin_wraith,
  Thanks for your post. Let me try and expand on some of the topics raised.
  
  I agree about mankind's knowledge has never been so great. In fact our knowledge is now doubling every 18 months they say. Not sure how they quantify that but no doubt it has much to do with the availability of computing power. But take computers alone, can we ever build one and program it to have as much intelligence as the human brain? Isn't the a computer fundamentally dumb? Can a computer ever be conscious? How far can Artificial Intelligence go? Is it only ever limited by our own interlligence?
  
  My suspicion is that atheists will argue that a computer has no soul or spirit and neither do we. However, my own conclusion is that we are fundamentally different to a computer, it is only a machine (although an incredible powerful one) but we are not, we are alive, conscious and exist in a way the a computer doesn't.
  
  My own suspicion is that we can never find all the answers in this world via technological advance alone, even given an infinite amount of time. I believe we exist outside of this physical realm in almost a 'parallel universe. Consider these verses for example.
  
  Matthew 6:6 (New International Version)
  But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
  
  Ephesians 6:12 (New International Version)
  For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
  
  Ephesians 1:19-21 (New International Version)
  19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, 20 which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
  
  2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (New International Version)
  17 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
  
  John 4:24 (New International Version)
  God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.
  
  The last verse really sums up what I was saying earlier, God is spirit and we cannot explain spiritual things in the physical realm. Consider three attributes of God.
  
  omniscient:
  1 : having infinite awareness, understanding, and insight
  2 : possessed of universal or complete knowledge
  
  omnipotent:
  ALMIGHTY-having absolute power over all
  
  omnipresent:
  present in all places at all times
  
  Each one is infinite in it's own way. I cannot grasp the concept of infinity, a universe without end, time without end so I can never become God unless I get a significant (infinite) upgrade.
  
  I feel that the true nature of thunder has not changed, I do not believe in Thor but I believe in one true God and I believe God makes the thunder and lightening. That does not say that I dismiss how thunder works, rains charging up until they a ready to blow and the electrons jump down to earth.
  
  Going back to the evidence of an afterlife, would you conclude that there is circumstantial evidence to that effect? Take near-death experiences for example. I would be very cautious on staking any belief on this issue alone, but that said they are circumstantial evidence for the afterlife IMHO. Or they could be bogus, you decide!
  
  I urge you to watch this video. My own belief is that his experience is totally genuine.
  
  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3682855866783766146
  
  OK these verses sum it up for me.
  
  Hebrews 11:1-3 (New International Version)
  
  By Faith
  
  1 Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
  3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
  
  Anyhow, let me know your thoughts!
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  If You Were Wrong About The JWs, Maybe Your Current Beliefs Aren't True

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you're here, it's likely you were once fooled by what the jws believe.. back then, i expect you thought you were smart.

  you thought you could tell if you were being lied to.

  yet, they got past your mental defenses and sucked you in.. knowing this, how can you be sure your current religious beliefs are true?.

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  Maybe these questions has been raised before but what was there before the universe existed? Where did it exist? What is beyond the limits of space and time? Are there other dimensions outside of our space and time?
  
  These questions cannot be answered by pure science and mathematics. The great minds know that there is a huge unknown factor in any explanations and they must consider that leaves ample room for the existence of God.
  
  One factor is of the spiritual realm. Are we just flesh and blood or is there more to our being than that? What is consciousness? What happens when we die?
  
  Having seen my first and only dead body I immediately concluded that the person 'had left' and 'wasn't there'. We are shielded from death very much in the modern western world so we don't have to consider death like we did do in centuries ago.
  
  Also, the notion of spirituality is widespread beyond the modern first world. Have we really made such 'progress' in our thinking?
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  I don't like using Jehovahs' name anymore

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i must say the more and more i learn and find my way around my spirituallity the less i use the name jehovah.

  it just reminds me of everything i went through, reminds me of the ""bad"" and not the good of god.

  it reminds me of hypocracy and mind control.

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  Chalam

  Hi Loubelle,
  Glad you are enjoying the posts and the new found freedom :)
  
  Have you read about Freedom In Christ in Galatians 5?
  
  I think that you might like it in The Message
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=55&chapter=5&version=65
  
  All the best,
  Stephen