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  I don't like using Jehovahs' name anymore

  by LouBelle in

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  i must say the more and more i learn and find my way around my spirituallity the less i use the name jehovah.

  it just reminds me of everything i went through, reminds me of the ""bad"" and not the good of god.

  it reminds me of hypocracy and mind control.

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  Chalam

  Hi wildfell,
  Great!
  
  Can I suggest you read these chapters here?
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=22&version=31
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=55&version=31
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=53&version=31
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Who made the universe? Find out here...

  by Chalam in

  1. jw
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  thanks to the new friends and acquaintances i have been making on here.

  love to you all.

  i will use new world translation unholy scriptures for old times sake for all the ex jws ;) .

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  Chalam

  Hi all,
  Thanks for your posts and your views.
  
  frankiespeakin,
  Maybe God gave the words directly to Moses?
  
  He spoke directly to him man times, see here.
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=LORD+SAID+MOSES&x=0&y=0
  
  
  There is verse which says that Moses had a relationship with God like no other, I will try and find it if you like?
  
  If you read about the relationship that Moses had with God that becomes apparent too.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Hallo! Im new here

  by JosefinB in

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  i hope this is where you introduce yourself hmm.... my name is josefine.

  im 22 years old and i live in the us.

  and i am totally into jehovah's witness.

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  Welcome too! Stick around for sure, some essential reading here.
  
  Honesty-great post :)
  
  WorldTraveller too! "As for myself, I as many here prefer to believe in Jesus rather than the society."
  
  Amen! Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  I am new here, need a bit of help

  by Velvetann in

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  hi everyone, i was recommended to this place by "bigmouth" at least i think thats her handle.

  grace from canada.

  she is a sweetie.

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  Chalam

  "As Stephen says, it's about living, not about making a deal with God for eternal life. You already have that."
  
  Not sure. Are you born again? If the answer is no then you need to be and faith in Jesus is the only way. There are no deals to be done, only a free gift to be taken, see here.
  
  John 3 (New International Version)
  
  Jesus Teaches Nicodemus
  
  1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
  3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.[a]"
  
  4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
  
  5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You[c] must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
  
  9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
  
  10"You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[d] 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.[e]
  
  16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.[g] 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."[h]
  
  As I said before, feel free to ask if you want any help.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Help! I am afraid that I will join Satan...

  by EvaZ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is my first post on this forum.

  i am a forty years old women, and i have been a christian all my life.

  i am thinking about joining jehovas witnesses since god has told me that you got the truth, the real truth.

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  Chalam

  Hi frankespeakin,
  Are you sure? Try these verses for starters.
  
  Revelation 20 (New International Version)
  
  Satan's Doom
  
  7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
  
  The Dead Are Judged
  
  11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
  
  22 "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure. 23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD. 24 "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."
  
  Isaiah 66 (New International Version)
  
  22 "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure. 23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD. 24 "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."
  
  Sound incredibly like the dream to me.
  
  Jesus confirms the vision here.
  
  Mark 9:42-49 (New International Version)
  
  Causing to Sin
  
  42"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck. 43If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.[a] 45And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell.[b] 47And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48where
  " 'their worm does not die,
  and the fire is not quenched.'[c] 49Everyone will be salted with fire.
  
  Hope that helps.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  If You Were Wrong About The JWs, Maybe Your Current Beliefs Aren't True

  by serotonin_wraith in

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  if you're here, it's likely you were once fooled by what the jws believe.. back then, i expect you thought you were smart.

  you thought you could tell if you were being lied to.

  yet, they got past your mental defenses and sucked you in.. knowing this, how can you be sure your current religious beliefs are true?.

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  Chalam

  Hi JoinThe Dots,
  Forgive the tone of the text here, Romans 1 is pretty heavy but I think it explains something clearly.
  
  Romans 1:20 (New International Version)
  For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
  
  David puts it a bit more poetically!
  
  Psalm 19 (New International Version)
  
  For the director of music. A psalm of David.
  
  1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
  the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
  2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
  night after night they display knowledge.
  
  3 There is no speech or language
  where their voice is not heard. [a]
  
  4 Their voice [b] goes out into all the earth,
  their words to the ends of the world.
  In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun,
  
  5 which is like a bridegroom coming forth from his pavilion,
  like a champion rejoicing to run his course.
  
  6 It rises at one end of the heavens
  and makes its circuit to the other;
  nothing is hidden from its heat.
  
  So if you want to know God you don't even need the Bible (though I wouldn't be without it)!
  
  All you have to do is gaze at the stars, the awesomeness of the magnitude of the universe right down to its creative and intricate details and you will see God's invisible qualities. Call out to Him and He will speak to you. Maybe not as you might expect but keep listening and seeking and you will hear.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Who made the universe? Find out here...

  by Chalam in

  1. jw
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  thanks to the new friends and acquaintances i have been making on here.

  love to you all.

  i will use new world translation unholy scriptures for old times sake for all the ex jws ;) .

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  Chalam

  Hi all,
  Thanks to the new friends and acquaintances I have been making on here. Love to you all.
  
  OK see what you think of this. I will use New World Translation unholy scriptures for old times sake for all the ex JWS ;)
  
  Genesis 1:1-31
  1 In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth
  
  John 1:1-51
  1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
  
  Now John 1:1 is a famous TOTAL mistranslation with the "a god" instead of "God".
  
  If you want to check 13 credible version simultaneously then see here.
  http://bible.cc/john/1-1.htm
  
  Or go back to the Greek for you scholars here ;)
  http://biblos.com/john/1-1.htm
  
  But forget that, JWs are likely heard that one before.
  
  So turn you attention to verse John 1:3
  
  As we know from verse 14, The Word is Jesus and verse 3 says He made all things (i.e. the universe etc.)
  
  
  
  
  
  There is only one logical explanation, Jesus is God and was not created (as the WT says) because He created everything.
  
  And the WT say the Trinity is a lie...
  
  Here is something for the WT "LIARS LIARS!"
  
  Here some proper truth
  
  John 8:32 (New International Version)
  Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
  
  Love in Christ,
  Stephen
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  Help! I am afraid that I will join Satan...

  by EvaZ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is my first post on this forum.

  i am a forty years old women, and i have been a christian all my life.

  i am thinking about joining jehovas witnesses since god has told me that you got the truth, the real truth.

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  Chalam

  Hi,
  Only Jesus' blood is the stuff to drink and His flesh to eat-the dream makes that clear.
  
  Sounds crazy I know but you are not alone in thinking that, see here.
  
  John 6 (New International Version)
  
  Jesus the Bread of Life
  
  25When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"
  26Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, you are looking for me, not because you saw miraculous signs but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."
  
  28Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
  
  29Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
  
  30So they asked him, "What miraculous sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'[c]"
  
  32Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
  
  34"Sir," they said, "from now on give us this bread."
  
  35Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. 36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
  
  41At this the Jews began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven." 42They said, "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, 'I came down from heaven'?"
  
  43"Stop grumbling among yourselves," Jesus answered. 44"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.'[d] Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me. 46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life. 48I am the bread of life. 49Your forefathers ate the manna in the desert, yet they died. 50But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
  
  52Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"
  
  53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever." 59He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  I don't like using Jehovahs' name anymore

  by LouBelle in

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  i must say the more and more i learn and find my way around my spirituallity the less i use the name jehovah.

  it just reminds me of everything i went through, reminds me of the ""bad"" and not the good of god.

  it reminds me of hypocracy and mind control.

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  Chalam

  Hi wildfell,
  Great you chucked out the WT literature. I think recycling it is maybe even too good for it, but emergency toilet paper is fine :0
  
  Seriously, there is nothing there you need. Neither the New World Translation Unholy Scriptures or any teaching from the WT, period.
  
  
  What you do need is a proper bible, you have those now, including the Greek so you are well away :)
  
  Just as important you need the Holy Spirit.
  
  1 Corinthians 2:14
  The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
  
  Pray to God, Jesus, Father, the Holy Spirit to reveal what He has for you. It will jump off the page, I guarantee.
  
  PM me or post here if you like, I am happy to help.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen
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  Is the Watchtower Society running short of cash?

  by isnrblog in

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  is the fact that they are printing fewer magazines, like having just one watchtower for a whole month indicate financial troubles?.

  definitly a cost saving measure.. www.isnrblog.com.

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  Chalam

  Let's hope so!
  
  In fact are my prayers are that they run out of cash and go bankrupt.
  
  All the best,
  Stephen