Posts by MochaLatte

my parents were abusive and i got nothing from them or anyone in the "truth" no bible study any attention nothing from anyone.. i read the great teacher book to myself at the age of seven, and when i was in my mid teens i started studying on my own with no help from anyone nor any answers my questions expect to be rebuked if i asked the wrong question so i quit asking it was god's chosen religion after all who was i to question anything.

i conducted the sort of study and this elder looked at me and said where is your head covering.

MochaLatte

Life is Too Short,

You have a PM.

ML

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The three greatest teachings of Jesus

by darth frosty in

the three greatest teachings of jesus.

are all cancelled out by the practices and teaching of the fds.

jesus gave three outstanding examples of what it is to be a follower of his and the actions and mindset that you should have, all three of these teachings or example's are diminished by the practices of jw's.

MochaLatte

Thanks, DF!

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Airing WT dirty laundry on shunning-need help

by fleshyheadedmutant in

i am quandry.

i have been here since 1996, but can only post under my husband's name.

but that is not important.. my daughter has been df'd for five years, since she was sixteen.

MochaLatte

What Terry said.

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Airing WT dirty laundry on shunning-need help

by fleshyheadedmutant in

i am quandry.

i have been here since 1996, but can only post under my husband's name.

but that is not important.. my daughter has been df'd for five years, since she was sixteen.

MochaLatte

I am disfellowshipped. I come from a family of very loyal JWs so I didn't cultivate relationships outside of the organization and my family is very obedient about not speaking to me. This is probably the "perfect storm" type situation of silence and loneliness that they hope shunning will bring about. This has created quite a vacuum in my life. I have done well with being able to function fairly well about 90 percent of the time, (I've been DF'd for about 5 years now so I've been rebuilding my network of friends and non-JW relatives) but the other 10 percent of the time I feel like there is a hole in my heart that will never fully mend. I feel trapped in an unfair situation where I've lost too much whether I stay out or go back. If it were not for my spouse and the friends and family connections I have left and the new ones I've made, I could easily fall into hopelessness and suicidal depression. I'm glad with time I'm learning how to cope with it, but as it stands now, for me, it doesn't feel like the effects will ever go away.

I hope this helps.

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Did You "Linger" On As Witness Hoping That All The Pieces Would Fit?

by minimus in

jw
friends

blueblades/mall cop said in a post that he was "lingering" on as a jw for decades hoping to understand things about the "truth" that were still unexplainable.

(my words, paraphrasing).. i did the same thing for probably a decade, either hoping things in the organization might change or i might finally "get it", regarding some teaching or viewpoint that just seemed to make no sense.. did you hang on to the "truth" much longer than you should have?.

MochaLatte

Thanks DF!! Just listened. I forgot about that song. It's very fitting.

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Did You "Linger" On As Witness Hoping That All The Pieces Would Fit?

by minimus in

jw
friends

blueblades/mall cop said in a post that he was "lingering" on as a jw for decades hoping to understand things about the "truth" that were still unexplainable.

(my words, paraphrasing).. i did the same thing for probably a decade, either hoping things in the organization might change or i might finally "get it", regarding some teaching or viewpoint that just seemed to make no sense.. did you hang on to the "truth" much longer than you should have?.

MochaLatte

I lingered on from 1995 or so for about 10 years. I like to think of that fan illustration the WT used to use about Adam and Eve when they said they began to die the day they at the fruit, but it took 100s of years for them to actually die. That's how my belief/faith went...got unplugged in NY but it took 10 years (and some "helpful" folks poking objects between the blades of the fan) to finally make me stop. My doubts started while I was at Bethel because of some things that occurred around me that were just not right. (Like let's say "hypothetically" that your Bethel elder husband commits adultery with some other Bethelite's wife, he somehow doesn't get DFd and you're left at Bethel to deal with the aftermath of that?) I felt it was wrong to doubt the process the way I did so I tried stiffling it until later several other things occurred around and to me that I could no longer ignore. I hadn't decided that the doctrine was wrong and I hadn't read anything against the organization, but I knew that there was something very wrong there and that I was not happy and just couldn't deal with it anymore. In the meantime I requested many shepherding visits but was only given the same generic advice, which wasn't very helpful. (During one of those shepherding visits a brother got up from his seat and got the bound volume to show me the article "You Are Precious in God's Eyes" before I had even finished explaining what was wrong.) Ultimately I was DFd for wrongdoing, but I was tired in every way of trying to hold on to a lifestyle I no longer cherished. I do wish I'd been strong enough to leave earlier so that I didn't waste more years inside, but I'm glad to be out now.

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Leaving bethel References ?

by leo999 in

i would like to know from anyone who has left bethel .

do the brothers give the people leaving bethel an employment reference , and how is it worded ?

i would prefer to think that if someone is asked to leave due to downsizing , or restructuring , that the bros do everything they can to enable that one to find employment and cope outside .

MochaLatte

Nothin much. Dreaming of warmer climes.

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Leaving bethel References ?

by leo999 in

i would like to know from anyone who has left bethel .

do the brothers give the people leaving bethel an employment reference , and how is it worded ?

i would prefer to think that if someone is asked to leave due to downsizing , or restructuring , that the bros do everything they can to enable that one to find employment and cope outside .

MochaLatte

I concur with leavingwt, that's the type of letter I received when I left.