again, playing devils' advocate here.
i brought up to a staunch witness relative some reasons the annointed remnant, or however she wishes to regard them, are not the faithful and discreet slave mentioned in matthew.
i brought up the fact that practically all the core doctrines that the witnesses were teaching in 1919 when the "master arrived and chose the watchtower as his instrument" would be considered as apostasy today, by the witnesses.
Hit her with the pyramid and the star Alcyone. Ive seen dubs go white with shock seeing that. Ask her why, after 30 years as a dub she never knew that information before.
Yeah rf: an elder (of some 18 yrs) said: "It's a lie! I've seen apostates printing their own old Watchtowers and books and saying Society did it". I had a small heart attack.
okay, this embarassing experience was at work, and not the door ... but the effect was the same.
i was working at the 300 area on the hanford reservation near richland, washington ... i was working on the fast flux test facility ... or as one news reporter accidently put it, the fast fux test facility ... anyway, one of the fun nuke projects there at hanford.. .
i had not gotten around to telling my co-workers that i was a jw.
Classic.
thanks for the laugh.
I did. And got a few surprises. Found a cousin, and some long-lost uncle. Google, is god.
some here may have noticed that recently teejay and i got into it a little bit on a thread i started about the locking of threads.
about two years ago teejay and i got into it a few times in other threads.
as much as i thought teejay was an intelligent guy and i have always gotten a kick out of his sarcastic sense of humor i still thought he loved to stir things up and take a few unnecessary jabs at people simply for the sake of jabbing them and causing trouble.. teejay called me tonight.
When we've made up our minds that a poster is a 'troll' and go ahead to attack the poster, not 'tolerating' such poster, and it turns out that the 'troll' was a disturbed person venting, what to do? Have we acted rightly? We haven't. Isn't it part of the 'concept of a discussion' board to take into consideration what might be? What is the 'concept of a discussion board'?
if we want to worship god acceptably, we must know the truth.
this is an important issue.
our eternal happiness depends on it.
Scholar,
when you mention 'integrity' wrt to the COC book and it's author, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that the contents, substance of the book portray the author as lacking 'integrity', or do you refer to somemething else?
Do you doubt that the COC book exposes some 'truth' about the organization which you've beena member of since 1964?
Per your qualifications, I'm assuming BA stands for Bachelor of (the) Arts, or sth like that. What does 'AM' stand for?
us anti-abortionist faces execution
the first man to face the death penalty in the united states for killing a doctor who performed abortions is to be executed on wednesday.
paul hill, 49, is due to die by lethal injection in northern florida, following his conviction of the murder of two people outside an abortion clinic in 1994. .
Abaddon said:
despite the fact that this guy’s actions were despicable, I can’t approve of his death by execution. If killing is wrong, killing is wrong; the minute you move away from this simple logic you get into areas where you have to make moral compromisesI thought that it was well worth repeating.
Englishman.
Abaddon, you conveniently sidestep the question about killing in self-defence. "If killing is wrong, killing is wrong" is a fatally flawed argument; like many such simple logic, it is also simply wrong.
If someone is such a danger to society (i.e. someone who did the crime and is liable to reoffend), then life imprisonment makes society safe from that person.
Except that such a person continues to murder other prison inmates and prison guards, eh?
my computer is infected.
this is the name of the virus (worm?
): c:\program files\dialers\stmtdlr.exe infection: trojandownloader.win32.dyfuca.f renamed.. it routinely shuts down my inet connection, and seems to be mutating.
Thanks guys, thanks.
've my life back now.
i made a previous post about me opening my big mouth...............i posted a message on another site making comments that some of you here made in trying to help me say something back to him... below is a copy of his answer to me.
the bold type is the other guy and the normal print is mine............................................. first of all i just want to go back to something you said in the 1st part of this message about the abuse victims....you said..."the elders in the congreation said that this is all a lie.
well, do you mean every last case?
Regarding the Mexico thing, you can get copies of the letters talking about the bribing from:
http://www.escapethewatchtower.com/Malawi_Mexico.htm
Bastards!
my computer is infected.
this is the name of the virus (worm?
): c:\program files\dialers\stmtdlr.exe infection: trojandownloader.win32.dyfuca.f renamed.. it routinely shuts down my inet connection, and seems to be mutating.
My computer is infected. This is the name of the virus (worm?):
It routinely shuts down my iNet connection, and seems to be mutating. Can anyone help me?
i am starting a new thread so folks do not have to search through several pages of posts to find this image.
the original thread was here.
i received the following fax this morning from my old isp(dirtclod.com was coincidentally moved the same day i received notice regarding this copyright infringement for bandwidth purposes) and was seven pages in length.
Good, Jourles. Let them write some more and choke themselves.
The fire a letter to you at that speed! The same hypocrites take half a year to attend to a 'spiritual' matter. Offspring of vipers. Hypocrites.
