Yes, I can. The current position of the Watchtower society on earthquakes is somewhat shaky. Get it? Somewhat shaky!! In the words of Kiekegaard, it's enough to induce fear and trembling!! Ha Ha. I bet that pun is enough to send people rocking in the aisles!!! But as for those who don't believe, I wonder if the organization's arguments are enough to sway opinion.
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The Watchtower poistion on Earthquakes, help please!
by alexb123 ini have been researching the wt's position on earthquakes and i am a little confused.
it appear that the wt is now not saying that earthquakes have become more common since 1914. for example on the wt site it is stated that
earthquakes.
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Another flip flop to note.
by hamsterbait inin his talk "peace - can it last?
" nh knorr said that the league of nations would emerge after the war as the united nations.. it was fulfilment of the revelation, that the beast "was but is not, yet is about to ascend out of the abyss.
yet the earlier interpretation was that the beast came into existence when the court of international justice was founded at the hague in 1903 (?06?)..
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You may want to consult a three-volume study of the book of Revelations by an author named Aune. Since the writer of Revelations was writing, what was essentially, a political attack targeted at the Roman Empire, I would suppose that the passage in question somehow can be associated with Rome. What's certain is that the writer of Revelations had Rome as his "target." The author of Revelations was a an apocalypticist; he wrote in the apocalyptic genre of literature. Of course, at that time, much of the "known" world was under Roman control. The Jews living in that time, in that part of the world, were - for the most part - unwillingly subjected to Roman domination.
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The New Road
by winnower in.
check out this super highway.. it goes direct from canada to mexico, via the midwest usa.. what's this about foreign interests obtaining 99 year leases on usa toll roads???.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=das7xzvgkhi.
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CONFIRMED Book Study amalgamated with the TMS and SM
by yesidid in.
old timers on the board may remember that i was the first to mention the november 06 blood insert in the km.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121104/1.ashx.
the same very, very reliable source has confirmed that the book study will be amalgamated with the tms and sm.. this same source recently had a long and private conversation with a gb member.
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I would like to know why do you think that the Governing Body is "tweaking" the scheduling of meetings? They have been shortening here, combining there. Why are they altering the meetings' schedule, do you think? What could their ulterior motives be? What are the real resons behind the "reasons"?
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Remember the term: Heavy petting.
by odie67 ini guess that would include tongue kissing, touching etc....the things two people do when they dig each other.
heavy petting was a huge no no!.
i remember sitting in front of three elders as a teenager spilling my guts about how i kissed this boy.
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Loosie asks if the term, heavy petting, is limited to the Witnesses' sub-culture. It's not. The Witnesses were by no means the first ones to coin the phrase. It has been used in English for quite some time; and it's used by all sorts of people. However, the Witnesses are rather "unique" in how they deal with the issue.
The phrase is vague; and it covers a wide range of stuff. Basically it refers to all erotic, passionate contact and touching short of intercourse. The Witnesses are somewhat unique in their reaction because most people view "heavy petting" as something natural and desirable. We all know the Witnesses' viewpoint on the issue. It's their viewpoint that sets them apart from mainstream society.
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Elder confirms "changes are ahead" but did not elaborate
by truthseeker inthe elder conducting the wt study said that changes were imminent but did not elaborate so unless someone spills the beans between now and next week, i guess we'll all have to wait.. right now we have three possibilities:.
1) the meetings are being restructured - rumors suggest that the congregation book study may no longer be held at private homes.
however, if they are held at kingdom halls, this will have significant impact on congregations that already share a kingdom hall.. it has been suggested that most announcments are made at the service meeting and i concur, but if this is a restructuring of meetings, then it would make sense to announce this on a sunday as the public would be present and the handbills will have to change.. if the book study stays perhaps it will be conbined with the school and service meeting with a question and answer review of the material with no paragraphs read.. .
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R. Crusoe - You write that some elders would skip the light fandango, and turn cartwheels 'cross the floor. Nice allusion to Procol Harum's "Whiter Shade of Pale." Either you're a young 'un who likes old folk's "classic" rock [By the way, in the 1960's, who the hell would have even been able to imagine the idea that the word classic would later be con-joined with the word rock?!?!], or else, this allusion that you use "dates" you.
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On the sound use of mental suicide.
by Narkissos inthis topic is meant as a follow-up of my recent conversation with r. crusoe on different threads.. it seems to me that the current popularisation of eckhart tolle's philosophy, resurrecting what i think is the very core of age-old mystical traditions (to put it shortly: death of the culturally constructed "self"), without the collective mythological, institutional and social settings for such an experience, is potentially very liberating but also very dangerous.. i am sensitive to that because i went through a similar experience when i left jws -- i felt both its empowering and destructive force, and, although i certainly don't claim to have dealt with it optimally (is that an adverb?
), i'm hoping that experience, good or bad, may benefit others, to an extent.
and i'm sure that i'm not alone in that case.. so i'd like this thread to be primarily supportive, even though that may include some theoretical and practical criticism.. .
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BTS - I entirely agree with you when you say that a lot gets lost in translating Don Quixote. A lot is lost in any translation whatsoever. In Italian, there is a two-word expression that states the case ever so succinctly: "Traduttore, traditore," which means "To translate is to betray."
Ironically, so much is lost in the translation into English of this self-same Italian expression!!! For one thing, the brevity and smooth flow of the original Italian are lost; "To translate is to betray" does indeed convey the basic idea, but the English translation requires five words, as opposed to the two Italian words. Therefore, the English is awkward and cumbersome in comparison.
But, a lot more is lost. In the Italian, there is alliteration, repetition of both vowel and consanant. The only difference is in the middle syllable: dut changes into di.
A similar phenomenon occurs in translating Don Quixote into English. The man from La Mancha is driven to madness [locura] by his reading [lectura]. It is his lectura which leads to his locura. In Spanish, the two words are quite similar. In English, they are very different.
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On the sound use of mental suicide.
by Narkissos inthis topic is meant as a follow-up of my recent conversation with r. crusoe on different threads.. it seems to me that the current popularisation of eckhart tolle's philosophy, resurrecting what i think is the very core of age-old mystical traditions (to put it shortly: death of the culturally constructed "self"), without the collective mythological, institutional and social settings for such an experience, is potentially very liberating but also very dangerous.. i am sensitive to that because i went through a similar experience when i left jws -- i felt both its empowering and destructive force, and, although i certainly don't claim to have dealt with it optimally (is that an adverb?
), i'm hoping that experience, good or bad, may benefit others, to an extent.
and i'm sure that i'm not alone in that case.. so i'd like this thread to be primarily supportive, even though that may include some theoretical and practical criticism.. .
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Bonjour, Narkissos! In regard to the notion of identity, I would like to offer yet another quotation from Kundera's Le Rideau, and this for two reasons. 1.) Ca me parle, le bouquain et 2.) Je suis paresseux comme tout. I'm really lazy, and I can save myself time and effort by quoting intelligent people. That way, I don't have to think [much].
While discussing a passage in Cervantes' Don Quixote, in which Don Quixote meets a mad [insane] poet, Kundera writes: "We are laughing not because someone is being ridiculed, mocked, or even humiliated but because a reality is abruptly revealed as ambiguous, things lose their apparent meaning, the man before us is not what he thought himself to be. That is humor (the humor Octavio Paz saw as the Modern Era's 'great invention', due to Cervantes)." Employing paradox, Kundera states in regard to Don Quixote de la Mancha: "How shall we define his identity? He is the man he is not."
And in regard to your excellent point about laughter, Kundera explains how Rabelais coined a neologism from the Greek language to describe people who are incapable of laughter; he called them agelasts.
There has long been a question posed; it's been around long enough so as to seem trite. But here it is: "Imagine yourself stranded on a desert island for a year. Which [fill in a given number, but for the purpose of example, let's say "three']] books would you choose to "accompany" you during your stay on the island? Speaking strictly for myself, I would pick the five books of Rabelais, Cervantes' Don Quixote, and Shakespeare's complete works. I suppose that makes me a true "Renaissance man." As a matter of fact, were I allowed two more books, I would choose Erasmus' In Praise of Folly, and any novel by Umberto Eco [Of course, Eco is twentieth century, or is he?]
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Espresso article on WT website
by loosie inwhat does espresso have to do with god's message?!?!?
well nothing but they wrote about it anyway.
hey at least they didn't say espresso isn't for christians.. http://www.watchtower.org/e/19971108/article_01.htm.
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As far as I could determine, there was not one single scriptural verse that was cited. I left the organization some thirty years ago, it's true. But from what I remember of reading the magazines, they always managed to slip at least one irrelevant bible verse into any article whatsoever, no matter the subject, as if they were following some unwritten, implcit rule that said that at least one bible verse had to be included in every published article. That is evidently no longer the case.
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Your Favour Rock Guitarist...
by justhuman ini will vote for ritchie blackmoore because:.
1.he has excellent guitar technic.
2.he plays with passion and feels every single note he hits on the freds.
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Hendrix
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Eric Clapton
Zappa
Jimmy Page
Jeff Beck
Gilmore...
...in no particular order