Man, I wish I'd thought of spending the circuit assembly posting from my iPhone in the dunny.
Would have made it a whole lot more interesting!
Nice work.
hotchocolate
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REAL-TIME CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY UPDATE "DO NOT SHOPLIFT FROM JEHOVAH!"!!!
by Sunflower Samurai injust a quick overview of some new light that is coming our way, forgive my posting via my cellphone.
audience is given ten questions and we have receved anwsers to r questions.. .
"we are stealing from jehovah, if we are worrying about problems in our life, congregation, or employment.
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Hope my American friends won't hate me for this.. LOL
by tornapart into the citizens of the united states of america from her sovereign majesty queen elizabeth ii.
in light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for president of the usa and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give ...notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately.. .
(you should look up 'revocation' in the oxford english dictionary.).
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hotchocolate
Booooooo-yah! You are treading on thin ice tornapart! :-)
I think the American Way can be summed up in my latest iPhone acquisition - it asks me - do I want to choose:
(a) British English
or
(b) English
Errrrrrm... Isn't England... like... IN Britain?
Jesus Christ Apple, get your geography right!
NO Apple California - you can't claim English! Maybe Englishized English.
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For Mouthy ...
by talesin ini miss you, granny, and here's a special song for you ... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvj_umgw22m.
tal .
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hotchocolate
Hope you're well Mouthy! :-) X
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This is how I'm doing.
by hotchocolate ini'm smiling as i write this.
i've just read my post three years ago, titled "i left.
" i wrote that two days after i had packed up my house and flown 2000 miles away to sydney with my little boy.
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Oh thank you guys. If you only knew the huge part this board played in giving me strength when I needed it. Flipper, Mouthy, you've been there all the way. You've no idea how much I needed you all some days.
Carla, that's the reason why I wrote this. I read a post on JWD a couple of days ago - a woman who is back where I was... wanting to leave but petrified of doing so, not knowing what to do or how the future will be. I want people in that position to know that it starts out really tough, but the rewards make every inch of pain worthwhile a hundred times over.
I posted this thread about three years ago:
about a Jehovah's Witness friend that questioned my reasons for leaving. After explaining, she almost overnight decided to leave also.
Well, we are still great friends, and we had dinner last night. Things for her are also better than they've ever been. We had a fantastic night, and both agreed thoroughly that the happiness and freedom is worth all the pain.
If you're thinking of leaving.. don't waste any more time living a half-life. Get out now.
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This is how I'm doing.
by hotchocolate ini'm smiling as i write this.
i've just read my post three years ago, titled "i left.
" i wrote that two days after i had packed up my house and flown 2000 miles away to sydney with my little boy.
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I'm smiling as I write this. I've just read my post three years ago, titled "I left." I wrote that two days after I had packed up my house and flown 2000 miles away to Sydney with my little boy. I had kept my move a secret from all my friends and family. Only my husband knew I was leaving. I didn't want anyone to attempt to stop me. I had some very dark times back then. The hardest times of my life, without doubt.
Reflecting on how far I've come since I first joined the board makes me feel pretty happy.
I flew to Bali last week, a celebration of the news that I'd got a new job! I have been on the lookout to move up the ladder in my career, and have just managed to secure a great new position. The money is fantastic, the location is awesome. I am stoked.
I've just finished my first unit in a postgraduate (work experience allowed me to skip the degree) at Notre Dame University in Western Australia - Grad Dip in Business. I don't know my exam results yet, but I received a HD for my major assignment. :-)
To top it off, I've started seeing a guy I went to school with. Freaking gorgeous, intelligent and pretty damn awesome.
How is this all happening? I never could have dreamed it up back when I first took tentative steps away from the witnesses.
Life is GOOD.
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New to this site. Scared, Lonely and in a lot of pain due to shunning by my family.
by wonder*woman inthis is my very first post to this forum.
i am begging for some much needed encouragment and support by those who are kind hearted and know exactly the pain shunning causes.
i am a 30 year old former jehovah's witness and a mother of two beautiful girls.
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hotchocolate
Yes, this happened to me two years ago, I'd been a witness 35 years. To begin with it is all consuming and overwhelming. Stay strong, leaving the witnesses will be the best decision you ever made.
Your family may have raised you this way, but this is YOUR LIFE. You have the right to an opinion. You have the right to choose your own beliefs. You have the right to follow your heart. As one friend told me, "They want your heart? Then cut it out and hand it over on a plate."
The best thing you can do to ease the pain is to find new friends, especially other people who have been through this before. I remember being in a very dark place one time, and I felt that my only link to anyone who cared about me was through this site. That has changed now, and the fact that I'm here less and less is testament that my life is full of new friends and experiences. I will always be deeply grateful for this board.
Accept that your relationship with your family will never be the same again. :-( Very very hard to do, but the only way to move forward. Accept that this is not your fault, it is not you imposing your beliefs on others. Stand proud in your belief that this religion is not for you.
Reach out to new friends, join your kids' up to new groups, start meeting new people, find a good counsellor you can pour your heart out to.
It gets better, much much better. It gets fantastic. I promise you. x
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What The Hell...my JW ex-wife just knocked on my door in field service...
by unshackled inso get this...this is one strange occurrence that almost ended in awkward disaster.
so i took the week off from work to do some home reno projects.
this morning i was doing some yard work and just finished mowing the front yard.
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hotchocolate
Haha - great story... just as well she had a kid with her... otherwise you could have flashed the white bits and sent her into an early labour... another dub bub with a 37% chance of sticking with it... good odds :-)
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Americas Most Hated Family
by hotchocolate injust watching a video on you tube that made me ill. .
i remember watching this type of stuff as a witness and thinking they were obviously loco... funny how you don't see the blaringly obvious match to the jehovah's witness religion until the brainwashing stops.. watch from 6:28 .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3hz4cgnpy&feature=topvideos.
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Fleaman UK... as far as the disfellowshipping (or simply "marking" as in my case) goes, they are identical (watch from 6:30).
You may not have seen this yourself, but I speak from firsthand experience... through my most difficult times my family refused to help or even talk to me.
How exactly is this cult worse? Can you be more specific?
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Americas Most Hated Family
by hotchocolate injust watching a video on you tube that made me ill. .
i remember watching this type of stuff as a witness and thinking they were obviously loco... funny how you don't see the blaringly obvious match to the jehovah's witness religion until the brainwashing stops.. watch from 6:28 .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3hz4cgnpy&feature=topvideos.
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Just watching a video on You Tube that made me ill.
I remember watching this type of stuff as a witness and thinking they were obviously loco... funny how you don't see the blaringly obvious match to the Jehovah's Witness religion until the brainwashing stops.
Watch from 6:28 ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3HZ4cGNPY&feature=topvideos
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What Was Meant By 'Abstain From Blood'?
by headisspinning ini have always been very hardcore about my aversion to blood and have never even considered the possibility that this was merely a dietary restriction.
i always bought into the analogy of a doctor telling a patient to abstain from alcohol... it wouldn't matter whether this individual drank the alcohol or took it intravenously... it would all be in direct contradiction to the doctor's orders to 'abstain' from alcohol.. or the other analogy is to an apple pie... if you weren't to eat the pie, it would not be okay to separate it out into the main parts (or 'components)... ie.
the flour, the apples, the sugar or the cinnamon... if they were taken from that pie, you were eating the pie.. so maybe you can see where the questions popped up for me.
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hotchocolate
I want more definite answers. I want to know the Truth. I want to know what to believe. I still want to be 'hardcore' about SOMETHING. About ANYTHING.
Do we just start swearin' and smokin' and drinkin' and carryin' on at this point? I don't want to celebrate Christmas. I don't want to be 'bad'. I don't even know what 'bad' is. I am so confused and angry now.
Headisspinning - Although I don't have children, I am having the same exact thoughts as you. What do I do? Do I go out and enjoy life, have sex with women, celebrate Christmas and birthdays like everyone else? I don't want to though. I would feel dirty, unclean, ashamed. It's all been so deeply ingrained in me - the guilt, the fear. Like you, my head is spinning, and I feel like the world is spiraling out of control.
Headisspinning and doubtful: I felt the same way as you both do, as I know many others on this site did. Don't expect to find the answers immediately.
I spoke to a counsellor about this shortly after I left the religion. I told her that all my life I had known this "truth" - that there was going to be a paradise, I was going to live forever, my perception that I had a relationship with God - and suddenly that had been ripped away from me. I didn't know what to believe, I didn't know who I was - I'd lost my husband, my family, my friends... I was having a major identity crisis.
She likened my situation to an anchor, stuck solid for a lifetime, until something comes along to knock it out of the mud. Now, she said, you are like an anchor swinging about, looking for a new place to land. She told me that the key to who I am lies in my past. "Think back to what you know about yourself," she said, "think about the secret dreams and aspirations you have had, think about the things you are passionate about that have NOTHING to do with this religion. Those things will start you on your way. But do not expect to find your identity overnight. You need to accept that this is going to take time."
So that's what I did.. I thought about the things I had secretly aspired to - university, a successful career, helping people, being part of the community... and that week I joined a charity organisation and started to spend time as a volunteer... I picked up a position that will lead me right into a great career path, and a couple of weeks ago I was accepted into university.
It's a nice, fluffy, fanciful notion that we are going to live forever in a paradise. Lovely but not reality. Reality is right here, and there are some great things to experience. Things that you might never have experienced had you kept your blinkers on and not questioned this "truth". Give it some time, you'll find your way, and you'll never look back!