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  Appreciating The Watchtower

  by greven in

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  are you ready to barf?

  read this!.

  *** w53 9/1 526 appreciating the watchtower ***.

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  greven

  Most likely, the Printing Dept. in the 1950s simply made it up

  When reading the 'questions from readers' section this same eery feeling keeps creeping up!

  Greven
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  Declaration of Dependence

  by Stephanus in

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  i've mentioned my oppressive years in a church run house.

  i recently came across the agreement you had to sign to continue to live there when the new leadership took over.

  i have reproduced it below.

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  greven

  Then...you are pretty stunning! And even look like Sandra!

  Greven
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  What are the rules the WTS pharisees have burdended JWs with?

  by berylblue in

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  in another thread, mini questioned why the wts does not see that the gb and elders are like the pharisees.

  what do you all think are the "rules" jws have been given that smack of pharisaical (is that a word?

  ) burdening and/or hypocricy?.

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  Hey, wow! That is the very first time I have been counseled here (besides Vivamus kicking my butt now and then)!

  My defence: But Br foreword, there is so much more to mention, enough for the rest of us to last three whole studies!

  LOL

  Greven
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  Declaration of Dependence

  by Stephanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've mentioned my oppressive years in a church run house.

  i recently came across the agreement you had to sign to continue to live there when the new leadership took over.

  i have reproduced it below.

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  greven

  LOL@Prisca!

  (you know, I used to think that pic was you until someone poimted out to me that it was Sandra Bullock, LOL)

  Several weeks later, the house's head hippie decided to cook a fish soup/stew using the fish bones and heads - the whole house smelled like something had been dead in there for months!

  Iewwww!

  Greven
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  What are the rules the WTS pharisees have burdended JWs with?

  by berylblue in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in another thread, mini questioned why the wts does not see that the gb and elders are like the pharisees.

  what do you all think are the "rules" jws have been given that smack of pharisaical (is that a word?

  ) burdening and/or hypocricy?.

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  greven

  Rules how to dress

  Rules how to marry

  Rules how to eat

  Rules how to speak

  Rules how to date

  Rules how to behave in public

  Rules how to have sex

  Rules how to smile at the door

  Rules how what to think

  Rules how to study

  Rules how to lead a life that benefits them.

  Rules which music/movies/friends/mates etc are allowed

  Rules how to shun types like Greven

  You really can't think of anything or they have some silly rules about it to control that aspect of life!

  Greven
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  Declaration of Dependence

  by Stephanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've mentioned my oppressive years in a church run house.

  i recently came across the agreement you had to sign to continue to live there when the new leadership took over.

  i have reproduced it below.

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  greven

  "The Three-Legged Cat Rule"

  LOL! Now I really wonder what that one was about.... Don't feed the stray three-legged cat?

  Greven
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  Appreciating The Watchtower

  by greven in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you ready to barf?

  read this!.

  *** w53 9/1 526 appreciating the watchtower ***.

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  Dansk,

  I read them with an entire different agenda and outlook, this helps. I 'try to find fault' in their reasoning, interpretations and facts as part of my anti-jw campaign. I also studied propaganda and as part of that had to go trough quite alot of stuff that was brainnumbing, but you'll defenitely learn how to recognise it and counteract it.

  To all: Compare the appreciating the WT quote to this one:

  *** w94 9/1 20 Beware of Boasting *** Boasting Stems From Weakness While some may withdraw from braggarts, feeling inferior in their presence, others react differently. They conclude that boasters are insecure. Writer Frank Trippett explains why the person who blows his own horn may, ironically, lower his esteem in the eyes of others: “Everybody knows at heart that boasting usually signals some pathetic private weaknesses.” Since many see right through the boaster’s mask, is it not wiser to refrain from windy self-praise?

  Funny eh?

  Greven
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  An Ambiguous Statement

  by ozziepost in

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  the borg's writing department have proven to be adept at putting a favorable spin on what they prepare for public dissemination.

  you know how it goes, say one thing while doing another, such as when letters to boe "clarify" procedures as found in the watchtower magazine.. .

  here's one from the new publication that all baptism candidates must study:.

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  It is clever! As an outsider you actually read something that is not there. But if you read it carefully you can see what they really mean:

  However, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not meddle in politics. Nor do they interfere with what others [ie: non JW's] do as to joining a political party, running for political office, or voting in elections. Jesus said that his disciples would be no part of the world, so Jehovah’s Witnesses take no part in politics.” (Worship the Only True God, page 163)

  So JW's do not vote and run for public office, but do not interfere with non jw's doing this.

  I have seen more of these tricks. very clever indeed!

  Greven
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  Our body is a temple?

  by enlightened in

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  my father was disfellowshiped for smoking.... the whole our bodies are temples, respect for god, being weak, addiction and the rest of the reasons....blah blah blah.

  i admit that this is a bad habit, and has side effects... ones that he would have to suffer, but not directly hurting god himself.

  so this got me thinking that if people participate in an activity (or lack there-of) and it directly or indirectly causes their temples to be desecrated shouldn't they also suffer repercussions?

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  Viv? Overweight? C'mon! Get real! Don't talk nonsense!

  How is your smoking addiction BTW?

  Greven
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  Were You Successful In The Ministry?

  by minimus in

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  i know of very few people that helped bring people in the "truth".

  even those who concentrated on their own families usually realize that their children do not want the "truth".

  most publishers were disorganized with regard to their return visits and house-to-house records.

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  Placed mags but never did RV's. No succes thank God!

  A friend of mine from school became interested in religion. My mum prompted me to invite him to the hall, but i never did. Somehow I did not want him to come...this started me thinking!

  Greven