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  The dumbest thing I did as a witness

  by Vivamus in

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  when i was 14 or so, my attention got directed to queen.

  and i loved them.

  i'd save my allowance to buy cd's, posters, books etc from them.

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  greven

  Well, what do ya know: Cheeses likes me!
  

  Strange, people in the street keep asserting of this fact too, even handing out flyers saying "cheeses loves you, accept him in your hart!". They must have access somehow to the contents of your list...Some underling must be leaking information. I suspect you have a mole up there cheese!

  Greven

  ps:

  Cheese and Artichoke Fondue Fondue is a natural for a romantic dinner for two. Remember the fondue rule: A ... heat, stirring occasionally, until cheese is melted. 2 ... warm over low flame. Serve with dippers.
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  A question for christians

  by IronGland in

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  if there are any christians here,i have a question.

  why didn't jesus write anything down?

  was he illiterate?did he write it down and the papers get lost?

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  greven

  Hey Azaria,

  I understand you better now. Indeed lengthy arguements about something you don't believe in can be quite a drag.

  I deliberately used atheists’ belief because I think that all people have a belief system, whether they believe in God, Wicca, in themselves, others, wealth, success, etc.

  Ofcourse everybody has some framework like a window into which they peek into the world, however believing in God or wicca is quite different from believing in yourself, others, wealth and success which are more goals then beliefs in terms of worship...

  So...you speak Dutch? elaborate please....(here or send a PM)

  Greven
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  The dumbest thing I did as a witness

  by Vivamus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was 14 or so, my attention got directed to queen.

  and i loved them.

  i'd save my allowance to buy cd's, posters, books etc from them.

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  greven

  I remember that too, during lunch hours trying to convert the fellow students

  Holy [enter diety here] !!! I didn't had the guts...or maybe I wasn't so sure I had the truth...I usually hid the fact I was JW until I had to admit it...I know a nice story about a friend of mine regarding this...

  Cheeses, could you disclose the content of your list, or is it eyes only? I have such a list too only it's called To Do List.

  Greven of the curious class
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  The dumbest thing I did as a witness

  by Vivamus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was 14 or so, my attention got directed to queen.

  and i loved them.

  i'd save my allowance to buy cd's, posters, books etc from them.

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  greven

  You know,

  As a Witness I did had a stash of forbidden music in my room, safely locked away from prying eyes, however Queen was not part of that stash...infact my parents loved it!

  The hidden stash consisted mostly of hardrock metal and punk and some hardcore, but were mostly in the stash because of the covers...my parents didn't check my CD's by listening to them, just looked at the cases. ohh, how I switched cd's from cover to cover heheheh

  * there! posted! are you happy now? *

  Greven
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  What would YOU do?

  by SYN in

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  if you were in a situation where you were the manager for a company with two branches, and you were told that you could be promoted to a better office, improved salary etc by becoming regional manager, but only if most of the people in your branch lost their jobs and the rest were incorporated into the other branch, would you take the promotion?.

  that's an interesting moral puzzler, isn't it?.

  so, is it the money or your employees?.

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  I'll force feed you Miracle Wheat

  *shudders*

  Greven of the heheh-I-found-a-nice-nick-hope-it-sticks class....
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  newbie

  by Freedomrules in

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  i'm just trying to figure this site out.

  i'm inactive jw for 8 years.

  my whole family is jw.

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  greven

  What a strange reply...no $$. Well that's whats important for them...

  I feel like I'm the only person in my shoes sometimes.

  Yes, and before the internet most people felt that way...and look now! A true brotherhood.

  My experiences relect yours quite well, also inactive and questioning doctrine very early...at some point i started to do research and was tolled by the elders that I did it in the wrong manner...I guess they didn't like the stuff that came up...I read the old books boy was that an eye opener!

  Well, I keep on talking...welcome to the board and enjoy your time here!

  Greven
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  A question for christians

  by IronGland in

  1. jw
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  if there are any christians here,i have a question.

  why didn't jesus write anything down?

  was he illiterate?did he write it down and the papers get lost?

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  greven

  Azaria, some points I wish to comment on, being an atheist myself...

  The atheist’s belief.

  I think this is an oxymoron. The atheist has a lack of belief or beliefsystem. (but it does depend on the definition you use)

  We all have a right to believe what we want; free choice. Some of the people here that profess to be atheists seem so angry, demanding Christians answer their questions, yet the atheist doesn’t have any answers.

  Well, yes I must admit some atheists appear to be know-it-all's. However I have seen the same thing with theists, especially fundies. Indeed the best discussions are held with people that are willing to admit they could be wrong in their conviction. Dogmatism kills this off, whether one is theist, atheist or agnostic. A dogmatic agnostic now that would be funny! As far as I could see, Irongland's question was sincere and not meant to ridicule anyones conviction.

  If you are a confirmed atheist then be comfortable with it and let it go. Why argue about something that you don’t even believe in; or is it that you want to convince others not to believe?

  I don't believe in the Loch Ness monster, but quite willing to discuss it. Why not? I gather you don't believe in evolution. Does this mean you are not willing to discuss it? Since you don't believe in it why argue about it? See how silly such reasoning is?

  Why argue about something that you don't believe in? Well, if one is not sure it helps to discuss it, to think and reason about it. When it comes to the bible, sure we can discuss it...learn about it and the views people have on it makes us understand eachother and our motivations better. And yes, it may even be possible to convince others of one's view.

  or is it that you want to convince others not to believe?

  This puzzles me a bit...even if it were true, don't Christians want to convince other to believe? Is this not their primary calling? Why then, would it be wrong for atheists to try to convince others not to believe?

  Greven
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  Dr. Phil -- an idea for his show -- need your help!

  by cruzanheart in

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  yesterday i sent dr. phil an e-mail (which i'm sure he will review personally.

  well, here's my suggestion: how about as many of you as feel comfortable e-mail dr. phil too and suggest that as a topic.

  that might get his attention and we might get a little more attention directed to the danger of associating with jehovah's witnesses.

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  Gasp!

  This would definitely be cool! His show runs in many countries including mine...great coverage!

  Focus on the psychological problems associated with these cases and it might work!

  Did Oprah never do a topic on this?

  Greven
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  What Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Are Obsessed With???

  by minimus in

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  what do you think???

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  greven

  Also, they are obsessed with masturbation. Come On! If you're not getting any, you're gonna wank! Once you start, you can't stop.

  Once you pop, you can't stop...LOL

  They are obsessed with taking all the humanity out of the JW and replacing it with blind obedience...

  They are obsessed not with power, but with control.

  Greven
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  WT Document Posted in Sweden (in Swedish) re Abuse

  by blondie in

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  http://www.silentlambs.org/education/documents/slswedishletter5-03.pdf

  paste the link above in your browser and you will be able to see a scan of the.

  document sent to all congregations and newspspers in sweden.. .

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  greven

  bttt