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  Don't drink Holsten Pils!

  by Pleasuredome in

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  greven

  LOL!

  Do they also use a TV commercial? I got a pretty good picture...lol

  "C'mon in for a drink: you need it!"

  Greven
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  Dumb article re:atheism

  by IronGland in

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  http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20030527.shtml

  lets discuss this crappy article and faulty logic.

  or perhaps you agree with it.

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  Allright! let's start!

  Thomas Huxley ("Darwin's bulldog") is said to have come up with the most famous defense of the atheist belief that life was created by chance, not God.

  "The atheist belief" is an oxymoron. Secondly, life was not created by chance. That is not what evolution theory teaches, and to add another thing: not all atheists are evolutionist. The word atheist only defines what such a person is not, or what such a person lacks: a belief in God(s).

  In a debate at Oxford, he is reported to have stated that if enough monkeys randomly pressed typewriter keys for a long enough time, sooner or later Psalm 23 would emerge.

  With unlimited or just a lot of time, yes why not?

  Not all atheists use this argument, but it accurately represents the atheist belief that with enough time and enough solar systems, you'll get you, me, and Bach's cello suites.

  Again belief, like it's a religion! With enough time and enough solars systems (???). just out of nowhere? no! again Evolution happens because of chance (randomness) and natural selection (the steering proces)... well let's move on...

  This belief has always struck me as implausible.

  Gee, I wonder why Sherlock! Maybe it's because that's not what the theory is about?

  The argument that infinitely complex intelligence came about by itself, unguided by any intelligence, can only be deemed convincing by those who have a vested interest (intellectual, emotional, psychological) in atheism.

  Not by itself! Circular reasoning: you are an atheist because you are an atheist. Besides this argument makes theists per definition atheists because they believe that ' infinitely complex intelligence (God) came about by itself, unguided by any intelligence' and hence must have a 'vested interest (intellectual, emotional, psychological) in atheism'. funny.

  I fully acknowledge the great challenge to theism -- the rampant and seemingly random unfairness built into human life.

  Explanation? why raise a question without refutation?

  But no intellectually honest atheist should deny the great challenge to atheism -- the existence of design and intelligence. The belief that Bach's music randomly evolved from a paramecium should strike anyone as so fantastic as to be absurd, even more absurd than the belief that a monkey could monkey Shakespeare. The finite number of years in the universe's existence and the finite number of planets would not come close to producing a few sentences, let alone Psalm 23 or a Shakespeare play.

  That's not so unlikely as you may think. we have a limited number of letters: 26 and oceans of time, and lets not forget: a system that makes good sentences have a higher chance of survival then bad ones.

  But a just reported English University experiment has convinced me that the number of monkeys and the amount of time are irrelevant. Psalm 23, let alone Hamlet, would never be written. Why? Because the monkeys probably wouldn't do any typing.

  It was a metaphore, sheesh do I really have to explain that? 'The good samaritan' was also fiction, but it illustrated something no? no point in saying: "those apes used the keyboards as latrines and rather spent their time throwing excrement around". The metaphore still stands.

  The instructors hastened to note the study was not scientific, given the short duration of time and the small number of monkeys, but some of us find this "study" to be a hilarious vindication of our view of the "enough monkeys for enough time" argument for random creation.

  Vindicated by a non-scientific study involving pissing apes.Wow. Vindication afterall. Rejoice!

  Nevertheless, I believe that any objective person would have to conclude that the belief that everything came about by itself and that randomness is the creator is infinitely less intellectually sound than the belief in a Creator/Designer.

  No, I think that is is equally silly to worship randomness or God as creator. Luckely a lot of people are not as thickheaded as this individual.

  Sadly, many people come to doubt God's existence because so many intellectuals are atheists.

  *hint* *hint*

  In his book God and the Astronomers, Jastrow tells of his surprise when so many fellow astronomers refused to accept the Big Bang hypothesis for the origins of the universe. In fact, Jastrow writes, many astronomers were actually unhappy about it. Why? Because the Big Bang implied a beginning to the universe, and a beginning implies a Creator, something many scientists passionately reject.

  No scientist would claim that. I think he needs to read he book again.

  This led Jastrow to the sobering conclusion that many scientists have vested, non-scientific interests in some of their beliefs, especially the non-existence of God. For some psychological or emotional reasons, not intellectual ones, many scientists prefer to believe that given enough monkeys, one will type out a psalm.

  The first part of this is true, but equally so for theist researchers, both are looking for confirmation for preconceived ideas. That's humanity. No not again! Sod off with yer monkeys!

  But neither math nor science argues that all came about randomly, without a Creator. Only a keen desire to deny God explains such a belief, a belief that should be laid to rest beneath a large pile of monkey doo-doo at Plymouth University, England.

  A keen desire to deny God? That's offensive! Most people started out as believers but could no longer uphold such beliefs in the face (or actually absence) of evidence for a God. And seriously, some of those beliefs are so nice I wish they were true! But one must not be led by wishfull thinking. How unsoothing this may be....

  Greven
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  What physical activites do you practice?

  by JH in

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  do you try to stay in good shape?

  to be healthy and stay healthy one must do a minimum of physical activites, even if it's only a small walk once in a while.

  no matter who you are, you must do a minimum of physical activities to stay healthy.. i walk alot, and go on bike once in a while.

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  What exercise do you do to stay in good physical shape?

  Well..., bonker bi- and tri-athlon, taebonker, bonk-lifting, swim-bonker, climb-bonker, bonker-bowling, bonk-nastics erw...

  Unfortunately I don't do much sports as off lately.

  Greven
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  recommend a book

  by DanTheMan in

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  any book that you like.. i am particularly interested in reading some good non-fiction.. crisis of conscience tops my recommendations, i think it is one of the best books i've ever read.

  but you don't have to recommend apostate books.. currently i am enjoying dale carnegie's how to win friends and influence people.

  i am enjoying it and trying to take the advice to heart - namely, don't be so negative!.

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  Reborn:a must-read is The Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien.

  Indeed! I especially like the creation myth tolkien created!

  My recommendation: Small Gods - Terry Pratchett

  Takes a witty look on religion with stylisch Britisch humor a la Monty Python. Hilarious.

  Greven
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  I am the King of the North

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  dear watchtower bible and tract society,.

  this is to inform you that i, j. bradley potts, am the king of the north as mentioned in prophecy in the bible book of daniel.

  you may want to update your publications with this "new light.

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  And I am King of the Middle Kingdom!

  Let's team up i'd say; we have a common enemy!

  Greven
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  A Toast! The Latest European Overbeer Reavealed!

  by Valis in

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  today the holt spirits guided me to my pm box, where i found justification and a message to the effect that the need for beer is great in holland, hence the fulfillment of yet another prophecy.

  "and lo it came to pass, that when overbeers where appointed round the world, barmageddon would commence.

  a heavenly host of hosts n' hostesses would reign over the flock and spiritual food would flow like fresh brew from a newly tapped keg.

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  Viv 6:2, and they all gathered round the beer keg and rejoiced for the beer was tasty and refreshing. Behold! Viv said, this holybrew shall be the key to your salvation...
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  A Toast! The Latest European Overbeer Reavealed!

  by Valis in

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  today the holt spirits guided me to my pm box, where i found justification and a message to the effect that the need for beer is great in holland, hence the fulfillment of yet another prophecy.

  "and lo it came to pass, that when overbeers where appointed round the world, barmageddon would commence.

  a heavenly host of hosts n' hostesses would reign over the flock and spiritual food would flow like fresh brew from a newly tapped keg.

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  No rotting carcasses? No crushing the infidels beneath thy pretty feet? No reign of terror?! I mean, no fun?! My, my! It seems you are too kind for a goddess.

  What will my prophet role be if not to warn for you wrath?

  Will I walk the streets shouting: "Repent! Repent now there is time! Come and have a beer with Viv!"?

  Greven -semi-humble servant-
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  District Assembly talks about apostates............

  by integ in

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  district assembly 5/24/03 3:40 pm "beware of the voice of strangers".. 1) counterfeit words: beware of those using "counterfeit words".

  2) flirting: young ones need to avoid being lured into relationships with un-believers.. 3) you trust your christian parents...listen to them.

  you also trust those taking the lead among you..such as elders.

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  "Do not visit www.jehovahs-witness.com!"

  If that happens we can expect a tsunami of newbies! Hah! bring it on!

  Greven
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  A Toast! The Latest European Overbeer Reavealed!

  by Valis in

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  today the holt spirits guided me to my pm box, where i found justification and a message to the effect that the need for beer is great in holland, hence the fulfillment of yet another prophecy.

  "and lo it came to pass, that when overbeers where appointed round the world, barmageddon would commence.

  a heavenly host of hosts n' hostesses would reign over the flock and spiritual food would flow like fresh brew from a newly tapped keg.

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  Tremble all ye Dutches, for Vivamus is your Goddess and Greven her humble prophet(*). Rejoice, for she is mercyfull and kind! But do not test her or kindle her wrath, for her wrath is swift and terrible! Your worthless rotting carcass will then stand as a display to the nations not to bar her way....

  (*) Just been promoted! *does a happy dance*

  Greven
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  Starcraft:Ghost, new game from Blizzard

  by Yizuman in

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  http://www.blizzard.com/ghost/movies/

  check out the cool starcraft game .

  important, must have divx player installed to see the movie.... download this free player here.

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  Unfortunately this game will only be on console. NOT on PC.

  Which is strange because most fans came to know it on PC.

  Greven