i apologize for this point, as if beating it to death, but folks, you don't have any witness friends!
there is no such thing.. does that sound extreme?
too radical?
don't forget about Sister Change.....the brother arranges the car groups, but not just quite right for sister change....so she starts moving
people around....
this is an actual experience and it happened when the circuit servant arranged the groups....So when she raised her hand a couple
of times he just said; "Yes, sister change" it was hilarius and sooooooooo her...hehehe
h4o
i was just curious how many ex-jw's are in therapy to work through the shunning, family issues, bad experiences while still in, etc.
i go every other week, and sometimes i feel like it's helpful, and other times i feel like it doesn't really change anything and wonder if it's even worth going.
it's not horrible, but it's not really enjoyable to go either and sometimes i feel like my therapist just doesn't understand the manitude of the situation.
Therapy depends on what issues you are going through, if there has been any abuse by all means it is very necessary.
If it is all the doctrinal issues, reading C.o.c book and the best I feel is Steve Hassan's "Combatting Cult Mind Control" a must read...
and of course the support and experiences by many on this forum will help to see what so many have gone through and what has helped them to get through the pain.
h4o
my sister and i were forced into becoming jw's back in the late 60's when we were 13 and 15 years old.
i stayed in the organization about 2 1/2 years until i was 16 and then put my foot down and stopped going.
we attended the old fairfax hall that was across the street from fairfax hs in la.
Welcome......I read your sisters reply on Wha's thread. 42 years in is a long time...I thought 30 for me was rough...anyway nice you all
have each other for support. Life becomes so peaceful when you can leave it all behind (Wt)....
hope4others
ok, i read this on another thread that the new belief is that the when the bible says:.
galatians 5:22on the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,23mildness, self-control.
against such things there is no law.
Spike out of curiosty were you ever a jw at one time, or just someone who likes some of there doctrine?
h4o
i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?
) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.
i don't want to harp on each point.
I think there has been a lot of good information here. No I do not think they have the right to prevent you from seeking knowledge
at any given time. Whether books or web sites. For years we have preached to others about there religions that they need to keep
seeking, keep testing to see if these things are so. And yet at the first instance a jw is questioned they close their ears. It is important to be
open minded to examine all facts even if the ones we first learned are false...keep learning it is only then you will truly become a wise person.
h4o
i stayed at a caravan site near fort william, i travelled by the m6 from birmingham to fort william i saw part of the yorkshire dales and lake district on way up, i went to fort augustus and eilean donan, as well as up a mountain track journey .
saw glencoe/loch lomond also a rock near cluanie where a stream flowed in one side but exited the other.. .
gemstone/west highland museum.. saw braveheart games.
Glad you had a nice time, pictures would be really nice. I'm hoping to go to Scotland next summer.
h4o
this is the 4th study article, to be studied christmas week as it happens.
title - "maintaining friendships in a loveless world".
para 2 "today, what a pleasure it is to be associated with a worldwide organization whose members follow the pattern set by first century christians.
a friend decides to turn their back on Jehovah...PERHAPS needing disfellowshipping, that leaves it pretty open really. Not that they
are being disfellowshipped just the fact they turn there back....
It seems to be a lot of articles all geared this way anymore.....
h4o
a co-worker of mine whose, wife and daughters are jehovahs witnesses, told me about situation that his oldest daughter finds abhorrent.
he said that a close friend of his daughter was found dead in a car the other day.
she was in her early 30's and had been a lifelong jw.
Its bad when jw's jump to conclusions they can make a bad name for anyone when they get an idea in their head.
An autopsy will soon reveal if the perscription drugs were in her system enough to kill her...
h4o
hi everyone... you might remember me from the username 'darklighter' ... if you don't, no big.
i used to post on here about a year ago.
i was stuck inside the watchtower corporation, with everone around me still believing.
Hi Benjamin nice to see you back. It took a lot to make the plunge for you no doubt, I'm so glad you have found this new freedom and happiness
you tuly are an inspiration to all.
h4o
in my mind lately this thought is spinning round and round.
can you find real love in the wt world?
i guess you cant.
I have to agree it seems when one is in and one is out of the religion what held you together and drew you together is gone. Most to me seem to get together because the other loves Jehovah and those are the things you look for. Someone spiritually strong with righteous qualities.
What held you together then is no longer there you drift apart. For some perhaps if those were the only reasons they married in the first place they really never were in love. Everything in there
marriage was based on religion.
It seems a tug of war goes on, when one leaves Jw land and the other remains there is no longer common ground and the relationship seems only to doom.
How many on this site even in a split religious home have remained together?
If you can get your partner out with you it does make life easier, but even then you have to build
your relationship up again. Now you are both different people when you wake up from leaving, you now know what you have missed in life,
your goals may have changed you want more in life.
Its like starting a brand new life.
h4o
