rod, you are always getting your overly sensitive feathers ruffled about things you absolutely have not studied nor read nor researched nor even bothered to seriously look into. You are the one who is seeing things ALL WRONG, and you are reading/imputing erroneous thoughts/motives into the info I have shared here and elsewhere.
When you are ready to do your homework, I'm ready to assist. I can load you up with documentation, or at least point you in the right direction. Until then, you only make yourself look ignorant (meaning "UNAWARE" and as yet "UNINFORMED") on the subjects at hand.
I suggest you start by reading/researching Jewish authors/activists who have also researched these things and who are very aware of how all "regular" Jewish people are being set up for disaster, along with the rest of us Gentiles, minorities, Christians, elderly, handicapped, mentally ill, etc. (Anybody they deem unfit and unworthy is on their "global hit list," so to speak). And how these same bold, brave Jewish people are not sitting around whining like children, the way you are, but are helping to expose the culprits and educate their fellow Jewish brethren and everybody else about what is going on.
In other words, quit sitting on the fence pouting about what you do not understand. Get to work. Educate yourself. Then get on the bandwagon and help wake people up instead of wasting precious time floating around in a dream world that does NOT exist.
Now go to your room and wait until dinner is ready, lol.
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A New Economy
by cameo-d inlooks like things have already been put in place for the new economy.. problem-reaction-solution.
order out of chaos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmtycx_dpy.
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wireless mobility
by buffalosrfree ini have a wireless router and was wondering if one could visit another area and was wondering if one could take the router with them and use the dsl connection at another place?
sorry for the unknowledge but just don't know and want to find out.
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Hey buff, Just guessing but I don't see why not if whoever/wherever you are going doesn't mind, and I'm wondering if you will need to be in a "hot spot" where there is wireless coverage?
Since I don't know for sure, to be safe, here's a pretty great forum for Q's re: every electronic or wireless gadget under the sun...
Satellite Guys Forum: Home: http://www.satelliteguys.us/index.php
...and scroll down to...
Computers and Electronic Gadgets Zone: http://www.satelliteguys.us/computer-electronic-gadget-zone/ ...
...and in there, there is a section re: Lynksys, Belkin, Netgear routers 'n things.
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The Russell Trust
by cameo-d incould there possibly be some hidden connection here?.
the russell trust association is the business name for the new haven, connecticut based skull and bonessociety, incorporated in 1856.[1].
the business and political network of the skull and bones is well detailed by hoover institution scholar antony c. sutton in the expose, america's secret establishment.
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On a Mac, have tried 20 times to "edit" the above post so I could add bold so the entire text doesn't look like it all runs together, but the Edit feature is NOT WORKING. Grrrrrrrrr. Happens ALL the time... all I get repeatedly is that Error Msg. Can't wait for new Mac friendly forum... ;-/
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That was very interesting at wiki about W. H. Russell, and it certainly doesn't sound like he is related to CT Russell at all... I suppose those Mormons (see above) were just making up their own WT genealogy.
BUT... Remember GEORGE PARK FISHER from my above post, the Professor at Yale Divinity College that CT Russell often quoted from his book? Well, FWIW, he, too, was a Skull & Bones'er per this list of S&B Members:
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/bonesmembers.html
Yale's Skull & Bones Society Members
By Eric Samuelson, J.D.
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Fisher George Park
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But it did not show what year he was a member. I guess it's not surprising since he was a Professor there... BUT he was supposed to be a CHRISTIAN... check out all the books he wrote further above about Christianity, etc. etc.
And, of course, the founder...
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by cameo-d incould there possibly be some hidden connection here?.
the russell trust association is the business name for the new haven, connecticut based skull and bonessociety, incorporated in 1856.[1].
the business and political network of the skull and bones is well detailed by hoover institution scholar antony c. sutton in the expose, america's secret establishment.
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cam, maybe it was that "other" Russell bloodline... who started Skull & Bones... (j/k)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=russell+bloodline&btnG=Search
As for CTR being born in 1852 (100 years before me!) -- and Skull & Bones being founded in 1856 -- well... maybe it was CT's dad, cousins, uncles... who knows... in a prior thread about a week ago, I think it was Homer who wrote that some thought CT's father was The Mason, etc. etc.
How far is Yale from PA, anyway? Distance Between Two USA CIties, and evidently New Haven is 373.8 miles from Allegheny, PA... where CTR came from.
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Here's a nicely laid out site, this page entitled ILLUMINATI FRIENDS: http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=3740&name=llluminati
They have everyone listed, with little photos, and all the connections between the families... Interesting to see it laid out this way...
Russell, Bundy, Rockefeller, Rothschild, DuPont, Onassis, Kennedy, Yale, etc. etc.
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A google for "Yale - Charles Taze Russell" gave this result, same info everybody already knows... but there could always be a new lurker...
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:w-h9_gEGWpIJ:www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%2520Religions/Jehovah%2520Witnesses/jw.htm+Yale+and+Charles+Taze+Russell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
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The founders of both "faiths," the Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses, were of the Illuminati bloodline. Charles Taze Russell, who founded the Watchtower Society (Jehovah Witnesses), was of the Illuminati Russell bloodline, which also founded the infamous Skull and Bones Society at Yale University. Charles Taze Russell was a Satanist, a pedophile according to his wife, and a friend of the Rothschilds. Indeed it was the Rothschilds who funded the Jehovah's Witness operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers, through "contributions" by organizations like the Rothschild-controlled B'nai B'rith. This was proved in a court of law in 1922. One of the key people involved in this was Frank Goldman who later became President of B'nai B'rith. Why would an organization set up (in theory) to help Jewish people and promote the Jewish faith, be funding into existence the Jehovah's Witnesses??? I think the name Rothschild answers the question. Russell was also a high degree Freemason and Knights Templar. He promoted Zionism, another Rothschild creation (see Hitler was a Rothschild), on behalf of his friends and backers.
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On an opposite note, this from the Anti-Masonry FAQs re: Were these various people ever masons? ...
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:ZBGZ4uIrVfYJ:www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/anti-masonry03.html+Yale+and+Charles+Taze+Russell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=23&gl=us
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Charles Taze Russell?
Claims have been made that "Pastor" Russell (1852/02/16-1916/10/31), founder of the International Bible Students Association — forerunner of the Jehovah’s Witnesses — was a freemason; that the banner on the front of early issues of the Watchtower contained masonic symbols; and that Russell’s gravestone bears a masonic cross and crown symbol.
Russell was not a freemason. Neither the symbols found in the Watchtower nor the cross and crown symbol are exclusively masonic. And the cross and crown symbol does not appear on his gravestone in the Rosemont United Cemetery, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania — it appears on a memorial erected some years later.
In an address delivered in a San Francisco masonic hall in 1913, Russell made positive use of masonic imagery by saying, "Now, I am a free and accepted mason. I trust we all are. But not just after the style of our masonic brethren." He further develops this idea: "true Bible believers may or may not belong to the masonic fraternity, but they are all masons of the highest order, since they are being fashioned, chiselled and polished by the Almighty to be used as living stones in the Temple Built Without Hands. They are free from sin, and therefore accepted by the God of Heaven as fit stones for the heavenly Temple." Later in this address, Russell stated quite clearly that "I have never been a mason." Those who claim Russell was a freemason quote this address out of context without noting the rhetorical imagery.
Although Russell wrote about the pyramids and the Knights Templar, the pyramids are not a part of Freemasonry and Russell’s understanding of the relationship between the modern Knights Templar and Freemasonry displays an outsider’s ignorance of both organizations.
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FWIW, this was posted at a Mormon forum this past summer 2008... they say that "William Huntington Russell" was uncle to CT Russell of IBSA fame. Is that true? Never heard of WH Russell...
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:jzASOeN5dQYJ:www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/11805-why-did-pres-monson-reveal-temple-content-george-bush.html+Yale+and+Charles+Taze+Russell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us
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The "Skull and Bones" society is a Satanism-themed fraternity that operates on the campus of Yale University. They only accept entrants from Yale's student body that are either from top wealthy families or have made serious accomplishments. Many of their rituals are copied from masonry except they do some pretty sick things, I can't mention them on here but I'm sure you could find them with a google search. They were co-founded by Alphonse Taft (distant relative of Ezra Taft Benson) and William Huntington Russell (uncle of Jehovah's Witness founder Charles Taze Russell, and related to the Russell family that owned "Russell Bros," one of Brigham Young's original investors that ran the first clothing company and printing press in Salt Lake City.)
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The only other things that are popping up, other than the above, is that CTR quoted from "Yale College" professors re: science and other matters in his old books that are on google books... there's been four of them so far that I've seen, The Time Is At Hand, The Battle of Armageddon, The New Creation, Studies in the Scriptures, and Millenial Dawn. Five times that I noticed he quoted from a guy named "Professor Fisher" at Yale College who wrote "Universal History."
And I just noticed on the Studies book that it was written by "Charles Taze Russell, Clayton J. Woodworth, George H. Fisher"... Is George H. Fisher any relation to the Professor Fisher at Yale College?
Let's see, google says: "Outlines of Universal History" was written by George Park Fisher in 1885, and he lived from 1827 to 1909:
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/George_Park_Fisher
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GEORGE PARK FISHER (1827-1909), American theologian, was born at Wrentham, Massachusetts, on the 10th of August 1827. He graduated at Brown University in 1847, and at the Andover Theological Seminary in 1851, spent three years in study in Germany, was college preacher and professor of divinity at Yale College in 1854-1861, and was Titus Street professor of ecclesiastical history in the Yale Divinity School in 1861-1901, when he was made professor emeritus. He was president of the American Historical Association in 1897-1898. His writings have given him high rank as an authority on ecclesiastical history. They include Essays on the Supernatural Origin of Christianity (1865); History of the Reformation (1873), republished in several revisions; The Beginnings of Christianity (1877); Discussions in History and Theology (1880); Outlines of Universal History (1886); History of the Christian Church (1887); The Nature and Method of Revelation (1890); Manual of Natural Theology (1893); A History of Christian Doctrine, in the "International Theological Library" ' (1896); and A Brief History of Nations (1896). He died on the 20th of December 1909.
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As for GEORGE H. FISHER who wrote "Studies in the Scriptures" with CT Russell... There was an old 1910 NY Times obit for someone of the same exact name... but it's not the same guy... This obit/person died in 1910, but the WT's GH Fisher was still around through 1926...
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B03E5DF1430E233A25754C0A9649C946196D6CF
George H. Fisher.
February 7, 1910, Monday
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9B03E5DF1430E233A25754C0A9649C946196D6CF
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The WT's G H Fisher also co-wrote The Finished Mystery w/Russell and Woodworth. Another google brought me back to JWD for more info on the "real" George H. Fisher:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:7FpvwOhdaV8J:www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/8064/1.ashx+%22George+H.+Fisher%22+Russell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
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"On 27 April 1926 George H. Fisher wrote a letter to W. Nieman of Magdeburg, Germany accusing Rutherford of attending Al Jolson's Winter Garden Theater to see the Paris Edition of the then notorious show 'Artists and Models.' ... Rutherford's lame answer to Fisher's charge was that he was too busy in the Lord's work to be bothered with replying to such criticism, and anyway, had never seen Al Jolson in his life and did not know what he looked like." ibid, P.318, Note 4. Also see The Golden Age (4 May 1927), 505, 506)
Did not know what Al Jolson looked like? Then, if that is true, I don't know what Elvis Presley or the Beatles looked like either. Come on! In 1927 Al Jolson was the biggest thing since Peanut Butter!
Who was George H. Fisher? He was a close trusted Rutherford selection to be on the Board of Directors. Fisher was among the four selected to replace the four Directors that Rutherford had earlier removed. So, George H. Fisher was not one of those fallen 'evil slave', but specially chosen by Rutherford to serve alongside him in directing the Lord's work. Fisher was effectively the equivalent of a member of the GB today.
What did Fisher have to make his case?: George Fisher wanted to take Ruthrford before the Bible Student 'ecclesia' for discipline, and he documented this in the above referenced letter, and had the necessary witnesses to do so. ibid, P.318.
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Nothing came from the accusation of George H. Fisher, he died before any judicial proceedings could occur.
How convenient for the "Judge".
George Fisher was also one of the Watchtower men convicted of sedition and was sent to prison along with Rutherford.
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Some more relevant information about George Fisher.
Under the supervision of Rutherford, Clayton J. Woodworth and George H. Fisher wrote "The Finished Mystery," which appeared in the year 1917. This was supposed to be the posthumous volume 7 of Russell's "Studies In the Scriptures."
But was rather an attempt to justify Rutherford as the rightful successor to Russell. (who else but the rightful successor would be publishing the 7th volume?)
But, by the year 1927, Fisher had become a non-person as far as Rutherford and the Watchtower were concerned. This may have been because of the accusation Fisher made concerning Rutherford attending the Burlesque show. Whatever the reason, the 1927 edition of "The Finished Mystery" has all the parts written by Fisher removed.
It was said Fisher was unfaithful, well, yes he was, unfaithful toRutherford, and so his words were excised!
How petty can you get?
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More results for the WT's George H. Fisher can be found via JWD Search: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/search.aspx
Evidently he was from Scranton, PA.
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:ttyprr_NVCoJ:www.heraldmag.org/2004_history/04history_6.htm+%22George+H.+Fisher%22+Watchtower&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=17&gl=us
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George H. Fisher (d. 1926): Another in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Active also in the German Watch Tower. (In 1926 urged the German classes to disfellowship J. F. Rutherford.)
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A New Economy
by cameo-d inlooks like things have already been put in place for the new economy.. problem-reaction-solution.
order out of chaos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmtycx_dpy.
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Does the "magic bus" have a connection to the Beatles and Strawberry Fields Forever?
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A New Economy
by cameo-d inlooks like things have already been put in place for the new economy.. problem-reaction-solution.
order out of chaos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmtycx_dpy.
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Excellent cameo! I wondered if I hadn't already posted that info in the past in some other thread we both had our teeth into, but glad to hear it's all "new news" to you. ;-)
(I'm pretty sure I have posted it somewhere here in the past, but evidently not in one of your threads... usually I slap some of it up whenever the subject of barter/exchange is discussed... always trying to "wake people up." I can't help it. ;-/ )
I visited the website from the CBS news piece, the International Monetary Systems site... they have some cute mottos...
"RECESSION LOOMS - BARTER BOOMS!"
"BARTER BENEFITS AS CLEAR AS GLASS!"
http://www.imsbarter.com/
Their whole concept is to help you become a "cashless business."
They also show -- as did the video -- their nice "blue and white" (Masonic/Israel colors) BARTERCARD. (See the info I posted above from Barb's site re: the Bartercard). This IMS is homebased in Wisconsin. I don't see any fishy "logos" on their site, but a site that is one of their associate-barter companies for CORPORATIONS, named: NTA TRADE: http://www.imsbarter.com/nta , well they also have a nice "blue/white" logo with the two pyramids, one facing up, one facing down, the Kaballah's "As Above, So Below" mysticism... and in a circle, no less. Notice how sneaky they do it, too. The first pyramid is stuck in the "A" in NTA, and the second one is stuck in the "T" in NTA. Very clever, don't you think?
Amazing what can be seen if you have the "eyes" for it.
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A New Economy
by cameo-d inlooks like things have already been put in place for the new economy.. problem-reaction-solution.
order out of chaos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmtycx_dpy.
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Ymmm, I'd like to barter with those "Killer" brownies!
The CBS youtube page says:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMtyCX_DPY&e
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December 13, 2008
An ancient practice has just received a reboot, as many small business owners have turned to bartering with others in the face of a continuing economic crisis. Jeff Glor reports.
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It seems "ancient practices" are coming out of the woodwork left and right. But no surprise bartering will get media's attention as the propaganda mouthpiece of the NWO. Several years ago this research paper pointed out the barter system would make a come back...
It basically compares the false/counterfeit measures that will occur first, with the reality that will come after it... (and you'll have to go to the original page to access all of the footnotes/references):
http://watch-unto-prayer.org/new-money.html#2.A
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1. NEW BUSINESS
A. Price/Supply Standardization (Global Central Bank)
B. Merchants of the Earth (World Commerce/European Economic Community)
C. Economic Crisis (Redistribution of Wealth)
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A. Buying & Selling (Barter & Exchange System)
B. Gold (Confiscation)
C. Servitude (Socialism)
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PREMISE
* During the first half of the Tribulation, a counterfeit Antichrist will set up a cashless computer system that is connected with a false mark of the Beast.
* During the Golden Age, the true Antichrist will establish a barter system that requires the true mark of the Beast.
PROGRAM OF GOD
Great Tribulation (beginning): God will cause money to fail, which will force the world onto a cashless system of trade.
PROGRAM OF SATANIC DUPLICATION / FULFILLMENT
* Old Testament Period: King Solomon gave Hiram, King of Tyre, wheat and oil in exchange for trees.
* Church Age: The secret societies are creating a counterfeit Mark of the Beast system and a barter and exchange system.
* Tribulation Period: The secret societies will implement Mondex, the false Mark, for buying and selling in order to facilitate a cashless society. Since Gnostics believe that the money is evil, Mondex will be followed at mid-Tribulation with a barter and exchange system.
* Great Tribulation: Participation in the barter and exchange system will require reception of the real Mark of the Beast in the right hand or forehead.
PROPHETIC DISPENSATIONS
PROGRAM OF GOD
GREAT TRIBULATION (beginning)
God will cause money to fail, which will force the world onto a cashless system of trade.
"Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted... Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days." - James 5:1-3
PROGRAM OF SATAN
OLD TESTAMENT PERIOD
King Solomon gave Hiram, King of Tyre, wheat and oil in exchange for trees.
So Hiram gave Solomon cedar trees and fir trees according to all his desire. And Solomon gave Hiram twenty thousand measures of wheat for food to his household, and twenty measures of pure oil: thus gave Solomon to Hiram year by year.
CHURCH AGE
The European Union already utilizes the Mondex System.
"The European Union is expected to adopt the MONDEX system as their unified currency solution." - 6:2
"Jan 1, 1999: The European Central Bank takes over monetary policy." - 7
The Mondex System incorporates in its transactions the symbol of the six-pointed star. Many scanners are shaped as variations of the six-pointed star.
"All transactions are being made secure by adopting SET Protocols (Secure Electronic Transaction) and will display the SET Mark."-6:2
"Pike explains that the 'Blazing Star in our Lodges...represents Sirius...' Other sources list this Star as the Star of Isis, Star in the East, Star of the Annunciation...Sept, Sihor, Star of the White Spirits, Star of Isis-Sothis, Star of Hathor, Star of Horus, Nile star, Morning Star.. Star of Set... Lucifer, and Set...[God of the underworld]...- 625:52-3
"The blazing star is properly six-pointed..." - 642:79
The secret societies have prepared the final system of barter and exchange.
"Many Church historians...have slandered the Templar Knights, describing them as illiterate. These so-called illiterates used a highly sophisticated secret alphabet to encode their records, invented the earliest form of credit card and were the originator of the banker's cheque or banker's draft." - 266:102
"Certain 'adepts' who are authorities of modern financial matters are preparing the system of barter and exchange." (Alice Bailey) - 1:569
"A very sophisticated form of barter will replace the present economic system." - 426
New Agers are being conditioned to accept a universal barter and exchange system.
"...it was out of necessity, rather than an enjoyable choice that originally forced the Lemurians and other underground dwellers to select to live inside the Earth. By doing so, they also joined and received some assistance from those beings from the Inner Earth who had been living underground for much longer periods time; for some, hundreds of thousands of years, who had vacated the surface to live underground for very similar reasons in other eras of Earth´s history.
"Following the sinking of the continents, people of Earth did not learn their lessons well, and many continued in their ways of darkness, greed, control and warring. When the continent of Atlantis sank under the waves of the Atlantic ocean...
"Inside the Earth, the subterranean people live in houses that seem like very luxurious palaces comparing to ours on the surface. Wealth is unlimited for all. There is no money system, but a very effective barter system. There is no taxation of any kind, no I.R.S., no banking system, no credit card system, no realtors, no mortgage companies, no hospitals, no doctors because no one ever gets sick, no lawyers, no law enforcement officers, no labor unions, no prison nor mental institutions. There are no retirement homes because no one ever gets old, all can maintain perfect health, youth and vitality for thousands of years, until they chose to move into their next calling somewhere else." - 748
"There is a time coming soon where the use of money will no longer be the driving force and foundation of human civilization rather, a world based on the barter system of divine law and the laws of nature will again take hold for all people's to live together in peace and love. True prosperity lies in spiritual growth not in material things." - 749
TRIBULATION / FALSE GREAT TRIBULATION
The first step towards the barter and exchange system will be the movement from a cash-based system to a cashless system of trade. (Debit cards/Credit cards/Smart Cards)
"MONDEX is the company providing this cashless system and has already franchised over 20 major nations. " - 6:2
'This [MONDEX] system was created in 1993 by London bankers Tim Jones and Graham Higgins of NatWest/Coutts, the personal bank of Britain's royal family. Natwest will maintain directorship in [MONDEX's] development and implementation." - 6:2-3
"Other smartcard systems are quickly being put aside in favor of MONDEX, especially since Mastercard bought a 51% stake in the company. Said Robin O'Kelly of MONDEX International, 'With Mastercard's backing, there's nothing to stop MONDEX now from becoming the global standard.'" - 6:2-3
"AT&T/Lucent Technologies purchased the franchise for MONDEX USA" - 6:4
Bartercard will be the second step to a global barter and exchange system.
"Bartercard is a global business-to-business trade exchange that allows business owners to pay for some of their business cash expenses with their own product & service, ranging from printing to advertising or even real estate.
"Basically, Bartercard allows you to purchase needed goods and services with a discount equivalent to your gross margin, giving you greater buying power and the guarantee that you will get new business each time you spend in the Bartercard network.
"Acting as a third party record keeper, Bartercard uses Trade Dollars to monitor the value of transactions. Bartercard's currency of a Trade Dollar is equal to one Dollar for all accounting purposes and the Tax Revenue Department. These trade dollars can be used internationally wherever Bartercard has offices.
"Bartercard members are issued with a plastic card and trade amongst themselves in a sophisticated fully computerized barter system.
"'A Bartercard transaction is as easy to conduct as any other type of credit card transaction.'
"Once you have decided what you wish to buy, simply identify that you wish to pay by Bartercard, then the merchant (selling member) fills out a transaction voucher or may swipe your card through an electronic transfer machine. You then sign the transaction voucher." - 422
The third stage will be the microchip implant, which will be misrepresented by false prophets and teachers as the Mark of the Beast.
"In the coming New World Order system of communistic control there will be no jobs, no food, no homes, no cars, no health care, no retirement benefits, no bank accounts or money without this hightech electronic ID Mark IN YOUR BODY. You'll not be able to function in any respect whatsoever without this world government ID/debit chip in your right hand. Nor will you have any privacy. Individual privacy will be eliminated! Transponder ID/debit chips will not only replace cash, checks and credit cards, they will supplant all existing forms of identification. These biochip implants will become our passports, driver's licenses, health care cards, social security cards, etc. In other words, they will become our UNIVERSAL ID and ATM / DEBIT CHIPS all in one. One World, One Biochip. Presently, AT&T advertises it's new contactless, electronic smart card as, "One World. One Card...
"Could the ID biochip transponder be the MARK OF THE BEAST? I believe so, It is looking more and more like it every day." (Prophezine) - 647
GREAT TRIBULATION / GOLDEN AGE
The final stage of the barter system will be implemented via the actual Mark of the Beast tattooed on the forehead or right hand.
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. - Rev. 13:16-18
See: Six-Pointed Star: Tattoos 17.B
The Mark of the Beast: The Six-Pointed Star*
Mark of the Beast ~ Tattoos and Branding*
Designer Marks of the Beast*
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You can access all the footnote/references directly on this page: http://watch-unto-prayer.org/notes.html
There's so much more, so much detail... not for the shallow-minded, but all of these articles are definitely fascinating, because if everyone is paying attention, you can see it all shaping up, espcially the socialism factor as mentioned at the top.
More search results at this site re: Barter System:
http://www.sitelevel.com/query_v2.go?crid=2675cf5a2db871ec&query=barter&slice_title=This%20Site&page=1
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Side Note/Change of Subject: Further down on the above page the article got into the "kingdom and priests" who rule with God, noting that the modern translations have changed the wording of Rev. 5:9,10, so I checked the NWT and sure enough, theirs is like the others (vs the KJV) so that got me wondering if all this talk in WT mags re: the "elders" being "Princes of Men" or whatever they call them, I was wonderng if they are setting them up as described in this article. See the section right near the bottom of the page, entitled PERVERSIONS (of Bible translations)...
http://watch-unto-prayer.org/new-money.html#2.A
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Goodbye to JWD ... hello to JWN !
by Simon inas i announced some time ago, jwd as it is will not continue .... ... but .... it's clear from people's comments that they do like the site and many would like it or something else like it to continue.. one issue was the forum software that was self-developed and not really in a good state to hand-over to anyone but i've been working on that and can now reveal the first release of what will probably be called jwn (son of jwd):.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/.
it is still work-in-progress so not all features are enabled yet but it will allow you to browse the site in a similar way to this one and it is pointing at the same database (although because of the way the caching works, new posts made on this site won't appear immediately).
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AK-Jeff, yes, agree. I don't mind not being able to post there yet... I can only keep up with one place at a time. ;-)
I forget, are you a Mac person, too?
If so, I say A DOUBLE-ROUND of Champagne for all the Mac Users who have waited endearingly, enduringly, patiently all these years to be able to create posts like the rest of the gang. Yahooo! Our wait is almost over.
PS: What does the AK stand for? I see you don't live in Alaska. ;-)
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Simon reminds me of the Wizard of Oz... always behind the curtain quietly pulling the levers and making things work out... soon a big puff of smoke from the wizard will be the Grand Opening of the new Mac-Friendly forum. Very cool. ;-) -
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Bush and the Bible just in on CNN news. Bushs bible talk stuns evangelicals
by Trying2understand ini thought that you would want to see this.
i can careless about him, but his opinion will be seen by many.
president bush said in a recent interview he doesn't take the bible literally.. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/12/11/am.intv.brody.bush.bible.cnn if the link does not come up, you can go to cnn.com to click on the direct link..
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A commentary on this subject from the 12/10/08 CuttingEdge.org Newsletter: http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/
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IV. President Bush continues to reveal that he is not a genuine, Bible-believing Christian!
NEWS BRIEF: "Bush Says Creation 'Not Incompatible' With Evolution", Fox News, December 6, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/09/bush-says-creation-incompatible-evolution/
"President George W. Bush said his belief that God created the world is not incompatible with the scientific theory of evolution. In an interview with ABC's 'Nightline' on Monday, the president also said he probably is not a literalist when reading the Bible although an individual can learn a great deal from it, including the New Testament teaching that God sent his only son."
Cutting Edge has always maintained that, when President Bush's actions are subjected to Jesus' litmus test of comparing actual fruits to the Biblical standard, he cannot be considered a genuine Christian. We have even created a table which lists good and evil fruits which we have observed over the past eight years -- "President Bush's Evil vs Good Fruits": http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/nz1086.htm . You will be shocked to learn how unchristian Bush truly is!
This first paragraph shows us two issues on which Bush is incompatible with genuine Christianity:
1) His support of Evolution - the president even attempts to reconcile Evolution with the Biblical account of Creation. However, even his statement that he believed "God created the world" may not be compatible with Biblical Creation. You see, Hindus believe that God created the world and then diffused Himself into every tiny aspect of that creation. Since Bush is a lifetime member of the secret society, "Skull & Bones", a Hindu belief about the Creation of the world is quite understandable.
2) His statement that he does not believe that the Bible can be taken literally.
Genuine Christians hold a great deal of stock in the belief that every single word is "God-breathed".
At this point, you might object, saying that at least Bush reiterated his belief that Jesus is the Son of God. But, a closer examination of Bush's remarks show that he said nothing of the kind. What he stated was that "God sent his only son". He did not mention "Jesus".
As Alexander Hislop points out in his classic expose' of Roman Catholicism, "The Two Babylons" [ http://www.cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=215 ] numerous ancient pagan religions taught a Divine Child from a Virgin Mother centuries before Christ! Satan cleverly counterfeited the idea that a god would send his only son through a human virgin many hundreds of years before Jesus incarnated so that the Deceiver could deceive millions of people into thinking that Jesus was simply the Jewish model of the "Divine Child From a Virgin Mother".
Bush's remarks are quite consistent with pagan beliefs on this subject.
Now, let us return to this featured article for more surprising news about President Bush's religious beliefs.
"The president also said that he prays to the same God as those with different religious beliefs. 'I do believe there is an almighty that is broad and big enough and loving enough that can encompass a lot of people', Bush said."
3) The President believes that the god of Christianity is the same god of the other religions in the world!
Of course, no genuinely Born Again believer would hold this viewpoint.
President Bush has always been a pagan Skull & Bones man in his inner heart. He only stated that he was a Christian because he was a Republican running for the White House. Since Republicans embrace Evangelical Christianity and Democrats embrace Liberal Christianity, it made complete sense that Bush would claim to be a Christian within the Evangelical Movement.
What is disheartening is that millions of Christians have followed the teachings of untold thousands of deceived pastors in accepting Bush's words rather than demanding an examination of his actions.
We cannot add any entry to our Bush's Fruits Table because he has already stated these views in the past eight years. Truly, Jesus was correct when He warned that at the End of the Age,
"For false Christs and false prophets will appear .... to deceive even the elect..." (Matthew 24:24a)
The word "Christ" in ancient Judaism denoted the office of Messiah, whom the Jews came to regard primarily Political, since they came to view their foretold Messiah as only a King. Therefore, Jesus was using the word, "Christ" to denote a political figure. What our Savior was literally saying was,
"For false Christs (false political figures) and false prophets (false religious figures) will appear .... to deceive even the elect..."
When you further add the understanding of verses 4 and 11 that unparalleled deception was a Hallmark Sign that the End of the Age was close, you have to understand that, at this era of time, we must expect our political and religious leaders to deceive us. All Bible-believing Christians should be on guard against the lying and deceptions of our leaders, not be a gullible as geese, falling for everything they say.
President Bush deceived more genuine Christians than any other president before him, even though his fruits were the most terrible. Rather than this sad fact reflecting badly on Bush, it demonstrates the complete lack of Biblical discernment among Christians -- just as our DVD, above exposes. You will be appalled at the revelations in this DVD, "Death of Discernment": http://www.cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=1918 .
Truly, we are living at the End of the Age!
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Answer: No, only to those looking for an excuse to disbelieve and mock.
ORDO AB CHAO
The Masons are the lovers of confusion...
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ORDO AB CHAO
A Latin expression, meaning Order out of Chaos. A motto of the Thirty-third Degree, and having the same allusion as lug e tenebris, which see in this work. The invention of this motto is to be attributed to the Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish petite at Charleston, and it is first met with in the Patent of Count de Grasse, dated February 1, 1802. When De Grasse afterward carried the polite over to France and established a Supreme Council there, he changed the motto, and, according to Lenning, Ordo ab hoc, Order out of This, was used by him and his Council in all their documents. If so, it was simply a blunder.
- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry
http://www.masonicdictionary.com/ordoabchao.html
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Worldwide confusion, past, present, future, was/is/will be the work of Satan and his human puppets:
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Satanic doctrine teaches that, ultimately, the New World Order can be established in society only after a time of planned, great world turbulence and chaotic disorder. It is this very concept- "order out of chaos"- which is at the foundation of all Masonic doctrine. Significantly, Masonic initiates elevated to the 33 degree are given a "jewel" to wear proudly. This jewel is decorated with the sign of three, interlocked triangles, representing both the unholy trinity and the number 666. The jewel is also inscribed with the Latin inscription "Ordo Ab Chao," interpreted as "Order Out of Chaos."
- Source: Circle of Intrigue (book) by Texe Marrs, pg. 94
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/terrorism.htm
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The New World Order ((f/k/a the "World Revolution") will be quashed by the PRINCE OF PEACE when He comes.
But how many really care?
1-2-3..... maybe a dozen or so at this forum.