a real mixture of emotions most positive, I like you started with Franz' work ( ISoCF) first for me and I couldn't put it down , I would ride off in the car ,park up and just read it for hours, the dark years of my miserable life as a Dub which culminated in really hitting rock bottom in 1994 seemed more and more distant and as I moved on with my life alone and starting a new job, moving to a new flat these were big upheavals in my life but I felt so much more positive as I found a new chapter in my life, it was so self healing, I've never once looked back , the years of shunning and being isolated were made more easier to cope with also, an inner strength I would never have been able to muster as a dub.
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How have you felt since you learned TTATT?
by tornapart init's been 4 years since it happened to me.
an almost overnight experience.
i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.
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Bethel layoff question
by CookieMonster inhi,.
with the layoffs of bethelites and special pioneers, does anyone know if they get some sort of "redundancy" payout?
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Bethel layoff question
by CookieMonster inhi,.
with the layoffs of bethelites and special pioneers, does anyone know if they get some sort of "redundancy" payout?
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Cart witnessing! Dose this mean more accessibility to apostates?
by joe134cd ini don't know if this has been talked about before but do you think that cart witnessing has made the r&f more accessible to apostates.
why i say this is because if you think of the d2d work the only way that i could make contact with a r&f member would be if they knocked on my door or i was fortunate enough to see them walking down the road, stopped them and began talking.
if it was known that i was an apostate my address would be recorded and no further visits made.. however with the carts it is a completely different story, and it is much harder to walk away particularly in a busy street in the full view of the public.
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very true , I've had numerous chats with them at the cart. from busy train stations and shopping areas in London to frequently speaking with them in my local town centre, although they know who I am now, I've spoken about subjects ranging from UN membership, to time of the end and the RC and continuing child abuse cover up , when they direct me to jwdotorg I always tell them that the strange thing is that their website doesn't mention those subjects, the R&F dubs would probably had no idea about these issues had they not seen me on these occasions, the absolute surprise on one guys face when I mentioned their UN membership was a picture. -
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About 'Regular' Pioneers
by Gayle innow that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.
who would have ever thought?.
yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?
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I always wondered what the point was of SP's especially as they received their small monthly allowance from the WTS, there was a few spread over our circuits over the years. I believe they stood in as CO's at times, surely next to go will be the Gilead School. The quick fire cut backs have really surprised me though especially growing up from the 1970's and into the end of the millennium and into the new one and the huge emphasis on speeding up this global preaching work being so close to the end, shame how many have really wasted their/our time doing it for so long. -
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Where are you from?
by BeautifulMind ini know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.
but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.
i currently live in georgia, usa.
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A call from family - Armageddon this month!
by kaik ini very seldom receive a call from my jw siblings, i mean seldom.
i can count them on my hand in past 10 years.
while we talk about mom a lot and i am in touch with her, i was very surprised when i received this call.
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well the month of October has passed and I think Kaik's sister should be eating a large slice of "humble pie" of course she wont she be probably saying the end will come next month, TBH I've heard some crap over the years regarding biblical prophecy but the Syrian refugee crisis is up there especially as the Russians became involved! just exactly what section in the bible shows this as a biblical prophecy? -
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CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...
by JW_Rogue inat the latest co visit something very strange happened.
during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.
upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.
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Curiosity killed the cat.
by James Mixon indon't you think with all the talk about apostate sites, this is having a reverse.
effect for the rf.
if i was a jw today i would wonder what are all the lies these people are saying.. and i would try defending their truth on these sites, but in each case those that come here.
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of course always has done, anything that is banned , outlawed treated as taboo only makes the curiosity to look into it even more likely, that's why they have so many "double lifers" and the fear of being found out makes them even better equipped to hide it, another example of why so many are waking up, the GB members constant attempts to to label every single dissenting issue and "apostate lies" makes them look more and more foolish. -
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Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures
by slimboyfat ini'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
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John Merriman, Chris and Norma Sanchez