its a most stupid scenario and even the most committed theist must see the madness of it, so basically any angel with thoughts of rebellion could go up to the creator of the universe and lay down a challenge and god just blindly accepts it? regardless of all the work he's put into creating the first couple and housing them in the Garden of Eden, surely there were masses of R&F angles shaking their heads in disbelief? the so called "vindication of gods name" which is meant to be what this dick waving competition is all about makes the credibility and wondrous loving nature of god even more repugnant to me, a stupid, irresponsible,petty,angry,vindictive,sick,perverted,blood thirsty,voyeuristic deity and I'm even more convicted in my vision/thoughts of her/him.
jookbeard
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Universal Sovereignty
by incognito2014 ini always thought this was nonsense, just an excuse for why there’s suffering.. but just assuming there really is this very long period of human history to allow god to prove his sovereignty.
this issue that affects every being not just on the planet but in the universe .
it’s a big deal and one that is so important that billions of people have had to suffer for 6,000 years.. .
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5 kingdom halls in New Addington for sale
by usualusername1 ini had it confirmed today that 5 kingdom halls on one site in new addington are for sale.
price being asked £3.5 million.. every witness in london worked on that site.
am in shock.
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jookbeard
I remember when this was built, it even seemed ridiculous at the time the mid 1980's I think, a vanity project to reinforce the view of great expansion, gods blessing,speeding up the work etc, really quite pathetic and many many more will follow, how low are they sinking? without a trace I believe.
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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Ever Do Anything For Anyone But Themselves?
by minimus ini was thinking of how witnesses were always admonished to take care of their own before they should ever help a worldly neighbor.
i don’t think they ever do anything for the community unless it’s a benefit to them..
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jookbeard
Blondie nailed it
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Convention Dramas Let us read the reviews
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe summer 2006 convention drama reviews .
*spot on with the acting and costumes.
jehovah looks in our hearts regardless of the color of our skin.
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jookbeard
loved The Bunker vid, especially the long curly haired Hispanic chic, hot stuff.
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Discontinue unproductive bible study - jw broadcasting
by Gorbatchov inhttps://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.
interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.
no love for the person.. g..
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jookbeard
how about the futility of continuing RV's when every single time you asked the HH if they enjoyed the last editions of the WT and Asleep rag only for them to say "NO" but we returned to give them the newest rags thus repeating the same pointless scenario month after month,year after year,I bet it still goes on
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"This system will probably be over in about 5 years"
by john.prestor ini don't think i shared this story yet, it's strange and although i did a little detective work trying to figure out who said what and when i never found out much, big surprise, jehovah's witnesses love their secrets as we all know... but i thought other posters might find this interesting both in and of itself, because of what an elder told me one sunday back in 2011, and because of what it could imply as to high-ranking jehovah's witnesses prophesying the date of armageddon.
specific dates went out the window in 1975, although governing body helper ken flodin hinted at 2040 in a talk uploaded to jw.org a couple years back, and the governing body hinted at 2034 in a watchtower back in the 90s.
but it might be, just might, that more specific date-setting still goes on behind closed doors in certain circuits.... so after i went to "meetings" and talked to witnesses for a couple years at a rural congregation in the eastern united states an elder pulled me aside one service into the vestibule at the hall, in other words, into a private area where no one would overhear us.
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jookbeard
nmnwe've heard it all ; its just around the corner, its so close you can even smell it, LOL, fools, as soon as they cry "peace and security" the end would come (1986 being the international year of peace) the creators promises to be realised before the end of the 20th century, what promises?
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Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to
by hoser inkiss.
steve miller band (abracadabra).
eagles.
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jookbeard
thinking heavy metal bands are tools of the devil to spread the occult is about as daft as Muslims thinking there are going to be black eyed virgins in heaven waiting for them!
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The inner workings at Bethel in the 70's
by Sour Grapes inwhile doing some research, i stumbled upon a blog written by a former bethelite.
his name is john bechtel.
the blog is several years old.
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Has Anyone Ever Outed You For Being “Apostate”?
by minimus ineither here on this site or by a congregation member?
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most definitely,summoned to a JC on a charge of "apostasy"lied and begged , crocodile tears etc, begged for repentance etc, was found guilty on the first kangaroo court, appealed and won, more lies and crocodile tears etc, cant have been many JC's like mine! I was gone a few months later, couldn't bear any more of their BS, plus I was marked, the witch hunt was quite intense, testimonies were gathered from my wife(LOL) and close friends who I'd spilt the beans to, the moron elders loved gathering the evidence against me, it was something out of LA Law! they weren't happy times, my marriage was over, my folks were heartbroken, and I hit rock bottom, it was a difficult time, to put it mildly, there wasn't a happy ending and it wasn't all plain sailing, how I came out of it all sane I still wonder to this day.
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November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!
if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!
the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!
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jookbeard
"stumbled by an adjusted understanding" why should I be stumbled by such a minor error LOL