once again, this was a real " jewel " of a study article by the wt society full of contradictions , controlling expressions , and manipulative wording in order to take away jehovah's witnesses free will and freedom of mind .. initially the wt society makes it appear that they are " concerned " about witnesses actually keeping the " peace " between themselves.
notice this quote from pg.
20, paragraph 7, " true friends keep personal matters confidential.
my 2 cents
The article seemingly allows an area of personal control but then immediately regulates it. Basically flushing out the corner of anonimty that some Witnesses may have enjoyed for the moment.
In essence, "don't get too comfortable and close with your friends and coming up with weird reasonings because we still control this ... !"
troubled former witness calls legal department at the watchtower organization.............. dale beckman says, can the "society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?
" in my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin.
" they are told not to even greet me.
interesting post. I was divorced from my devout J-Dub ex wife, not for mental cruelty, but for emotional violence. ?!?!
Ive never understood that one but it went thru the courts without a hiccup.
Initially. I thought this would be an excellent opportunity to bring the details into the courts about how the Watchtower was cultishly effecting and causing the problems we were having. I realized I could have a bad lengthy divorce or a quick divorce.
Like diamondiiz said "There is no possibility of the wts falling apart anytime soon...", the magnitude of the indoctrination is deeply ingrained and if I had went down that path then, I would probably not be as far ahead as I am now with my own life.
So I decided to make a quick divorce and build a life completely my own that my child could witness as an example of someone, "outside the Truth" that did alright recognizing birthdays and Christmas. In other words, I left it in God's hands while staying fully present in the moment.
In the end, no decision for this guy will be an easy one, but I would suggest counceling for what is to come so he can cope with the big 180 divorce brings into the picture.
i read don cameron's book and got an idea on how to word a letter to the ex when certain expressions indicate she has no clue why i left the jws.... i would suggest "captives of a concept" to all who just want a simple way to explain to a witness why we don't go... although there are a ton of reasons..... here is snip of the letter.... you mentioned me getting reinstated the other day.
i laughed because it was so funny to me.
it also let me know that you really don't understand why i left the witnesses.
just got back in from work.... Appreciate the comments...
i read don cameron's book and got an idea on how to word a letter to the ex when certain expressions indicate she has no clue why i left the jws.... i would suggest "captives of a concept" to all who just want a simple way to explain to a witness why we don't go... although there are a ton of reasons..... here is snip of the letter.... you mentioned me getting reinstated the other day.
i laughed because it was so funny to me.
it also let me know that you really don't understand why i left the witnesses.
I read Don Cameron's book and got an idea on how to word a letter to the ex when certain expressions indicate she has no clue why I left the JWs...
I would suggest "Captives of a concept" to all who just want a simple way to explain to a witness why we don't go... although there are a ton of reasons....
Here is snip of the letter...
You mentioned me getting reinstated the other day. I laughed because it was so funny to me. It also let me know that you really don't understand why I left the Witnesses.
I was going to attempt to explain it to you as simply and specifically as I can.
The congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses were selected in 1919 by Jesus, who had returned invisibly in 1914. He selected them on the principles found in Mat 24:45-47 after examining all religions at that time. I think we both know this.
Important to note is the fact that the scripture says that his servants would be providing the right food at the proper time. If it were just a matter of a group "eventually" providing the right food at the proper time, then "any" group could have been chosen, their useless doctrines discarded, and a purified form of worship left to the world. This is not JW teachings. The Witnesses teach that they qualified "then" as the "faithful and discreet slave".
Now, what were the teachings of the Witnesses in 1919?
I don't have to explain to you that teachings were very different between now and 1919. You and I both know that Christmas and birthdays were still celebrated. Even segregation was practiced at the time.
One of the important factors to me was the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses were the "only" religion not expecting Jesus to return because they already were teaching, in 1919, that he was already here; invisibly since 1874. They didn't correct their teaching till 1943. So they were almost 30 years late. I don't see right food or proper time in that.
If you want to check these facts out just read your Proclaimers book chapter 21... entitled "Correcting Their Mistake"... It seems nit picky, but don't you think Jesus would have been nit picky back in 1919?
Being reinstated is not on my horizon. Jesus used Mat 24:45-47 to indicate who he selected out of all mankind to be his representatives. When trying to figure out who that is, we need to look at just what Jesus looked at; at the TIME he looked at it.
I don't hate the Witnesses. Although, I do understand that the world is wicked and Satan will use any and every opportunity to misdirect people.
I also understand that you and many other people love the practices and culture of being a Jehovah's Witness. If Mat 24:45-47 serves as a marker, I just can't align myself with a group that Jesus himself wouldn't have approved. He may approve of the general principles being taught now, which are helpful; but an allegiance to a group claiming they are the faithful and discreet slave, without solid proof, is a little much.
Anyway, this ought to clear up and put to bed the reasons why I won't return as a Jehovah's Witness.
Sorry if this is a rehash of what you already knew, but sometimes I get the impression you really don't know why I left.
we always know when the gb or wt leaders are nervous and worried about potential alleged " threats " to jehovah's witnesses - because they repetitively keep mentioning these perceived " threats " in talks at assemblies or in wt articles constantly.. the " witness only " august 15th wt is no different.
in a non-study article entitled " the internet - making wise use of a global tool " once again the wt society instills doubt and fear into witnesses by " warning " them about use of the internet.
3 " while the internet can provide valuable information, save us time, and serve a useful function, it can also misinform us, consune an inordinate amount of our time, and corrupt us morally.
@sinis ... LOL!
The article: in other words rank and file, "you are too stupid and naive to discern what is good and what is bad so we will slap your hand like you are little mindless children and you better obey!"
i designed a 4 question personality test that looks at the simple ways you listen to music.. it can determine from those questions your 4 letter mbti code.
from there i included some fun links that goes deeper into the personality traits.. i have yet to try this in a larger forum such as this but was wondering the results and if i can develope this.. .
it may prove useful in my eventual psychology studies.. just follow the link.
LOL! Definitely Nick. Thanks for checkin it out! INTP myself....
i designed a 4 question personality test that looks at the simple ways you listen to music.. it can determine from those questions your 4 letter mbti code.
from there i included some fun links that goes deeper into the personality traits.. i have yet to try this in a larger forum such as this but was wondering the results and if i can develope this.. .
it may prove useful in my eventual psychology studies.. just follow the link.
I designed a 4 question personality test that looks at the simple ways you listen to music.
It can determine from those questions your 4 letter MBTI code. From there I included some fun links that goes deeper into the personality traits.
I have yet to try this in a larger forum such as this but was wondering the results and if I can develope this.
It may prove useful in my eventual psychology studies.
Just follow the link. Its clean and on my own domain.
Make sure to comment on if it is correct and gives you a little insite into this whole MBTI thing!
so i'm sure someone's already noticed this by now, but i just want to post this because... well, why not?.
i can't help but get that eery feeling that i'm at an assembly when listening to this video of harold camping talking about the rapture- the similarities are stunning, to me.
in other news, obviously the rapture never happened- can't wait to see how this plays out for him and his cult following in the next few days and weeks.
OK... can anyone else can imagine him as the old man in the second Poltergeist movie?
"God is iiinnn his holy temple!"
Just eerie watchin this dude!
many others will apparently:.
http://raptureparty.org/.
why are atheists celebrating the rapture?
We are all either left behind or this is heaven...
guess who made the cut!
lmao!!!.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/pictures/110520-may-21-doomsday-harold-camping-judgement-day-rapture-end-of-the-world/#/jehovahs-witnesses-world-end_11613_600x450.jpg.
How much you wanna bet someone at headquarters will arrange to get themselves off this list?
