just forwarding an email i received to everyone on the board.
figured a lot of people here might find it interesting.. so many security specialists warned against im(instant messenger) security.
before.. this is one of the proof of concept code against sensitive im security,.
I fail to find network sniffing a new or interesting attack. I use ssh for everything that needs to be private. You could sniff that all day and not learn a darn thing.
PS: I don't subscribe to bugtraq any more. Maybe I should.
Edited by - grout on 13 June 2002 18:55:43
just forwarding an email i received to everyone on the board.
figured a lot of people here might find it interesting.. so many security specialists warned against im(instant messenger) security.
before.. this is one of the proof of concept code against sensitive im security,.
SYN, that report smells a bit like an urban legend in a chain letter. I don't see any references to the original person or agency who found the problem and reported it. Let's not assume this is true without some confirmation.
ok, now before you read this and speculate please note i knew very little if any of mayan culture or pink amazon dolphin.
some of you here on the board know about my dreams but i feel it is time to get some feedback from the rest of you.
i have other dreams, but am far too lazy to type them up.
SYN: I know what it is, being a programmer and all, but I don't see what it has to do with this discussion....
ok, now before you read this and speculate please note i knew very little if any of mayan culture or pink amazon dolphin.
some of you here on the board know about my dreams but i feel it is time to get some feedback from the rest of you.
i have other dreams, but am far too lazy to type them up.
SOME theories that are only valid because they 'cannot be disproven' must be accepted.
I really and truly don't think so. With regard to the example you give: I'll believe in alien intervention if I see convincing evidence for it. Until then, I don't believe in alien intervention. That wasn't so hard, was it?
I certainly believe there are things going on that we aren't usually aware of.
You and me both. But I believe that because of my knowledge of the human being, and how limited it is in observing the physical world. Heck, we can't even tell what's wrong with us when we're sick without outside assistance from specially trained experts! So of course there's a lot we miss. In fact, we miss most of what goes on around us. But that doesn't mean I'm going to believe in any particular thing without evidence of that particular thing.
Edited by - grout on 13 June 2002 18:11:0
thanx for your perspective yk.
often i've tried to explain the last days....but i'm not very good at self-expression.. i have a great fear for mankind.
we are so cruel to each other.
Bleep:
Why does everyone thing I cut and paste?
Because you do?
Just a guess.
thanx for your perspective yk.
often i've tried to explain the last days....but i'm not very good at self-expression.. i have a great fear for mankind.
we are so cruel to each other.
Same planet, different worlds.
Edited by - grout on 13 June 2002 17:47:23
many of us are aware of the terminology
used by the wbts inc. when trying to
justify the ' changes'.
My mother had sometimes wished that changes in doctrine were printed in red ink so we wouldn't miss them. Little did she realize at the time that the obfuscation was deliberate.
ok, now before you read this and speculate please note i knew very little if any of mayan culture or pink amazon dolphin.
some of you here on the board know about my dreams but i feel it is time to get some feedback from the rest of you.
i have other dreams, but am far too lazy to type them up.
Would you assume I am letting myself be 'overrun with nonsense' for believing a theory solely on the basis that it cannot be disproven?
The overrunning I refer to occurs over a lifetime of allowing nonsense into your belief system, one apparently-plausible phantom at a time. No one locust can consume a field; but a swarm of them certainly will.
A counter-question: Do you really mean that you affirmatively believe that these things are true, or do you merely believe that they are likely or just possible? Such alternatives are not dangerous; they are in fact required steps on the path to empirical knowledge.
ok, now before you read this and speculate please note i knew very little if any of mayan culture or pink amazon dolphin.
some of you here on the board know about my dreams but i feel it is time to get some feedback from the rest of you.
i have other dreams, but am far too lazy to type them up.
invisible, you don't know me, but you're gonna have to trust me on this:
I do not understand what you are asking for.
Please try again, and I promise to try to answer you.
Because, of course, everything written about Mohammad in scripture is true.
See what evil comes of believing these things? *sigh*
