this usually works for me.. "i'm very interested in what you have to say, but first i'd like to ask you a question.
would you enjoy getting the watchtower magazine from me and studying our books?
click..............bzzzzzzzzzzzzz........ outaservice .
I cut them off and say "No thank you, NEVER call here again." click. I don't accept no for an answer - I don't call 1-800 numbers to get off the list - I tell them they're going to do it.
It's rude, but they're rude to be bothering me.
Sigh... my mother always said two wrongs don't make a right.
"if you leave jehovah's organisation, where will you go?".
no doubt many of us have been asked that question.
so where did you "go" when you left the jws?
Contrary to popular dub beliefs, people in the 'world' are quite friendly and nice.
Like yourself first. Self-esteem is a difficult barrier to overcome for most out of the dubs.
Find friends everywhere - just talk with people. Most don't bite. I have many friends, and as years go on, it just keeps growing.
my jw wife was telling me how much better a sister was now shes on prozac it turns out half the congo is on it .
it appears jehovah's happy people are not so happy after all.
This is an interesting topic -
I went on AD's to treat my depression. It didn't work - I still left the 'truth' (snicker). It took me years to get off that crap - well, crap for me. I'll spare you the details, but it was the second best thing that ever happened to me.
Sometimes, people get depressed because they're lives need to be changed. It's a normal reaction to negative stimulus. It's a sign to change. When a typical dub cannot change what's wrong with they're lives, they go on AD's, one of the most over prescribed drugs on the planet. And it does make them into zombies - at least it did to me.
About one year ago I got in contact with just about all of my old dub friends just to see what's what with them. 7 out of 8 of them were on AD's. That's from 0 out of 8. Pathetic!
how many here have had jw friends that can only have a good time when they drink?
i've known plenty - ones with obvious drinking problems.
not necessarialy alcoholics, but ones that equate good times with drinking, and drinking alone.
How many here have had JW friends that can only have a good time when they drink? I've known plenty - ones with obvious drinking problems. Not necessarialy alcoholics, but ones that equate good times with drinking, and drinking alone. I'm wondering if I was the only one that witnessed this behavior.
Strange how when I left 'da truth' I pretty much quit drinking. It's a pity I'm so miserable. (sarcasm)
i know from my own life experience, that repressed sexual expression leads to externalizing that repression and projecting it upon others.
fear, anger, and self loathing is the bottom line.
when i finially was freed of the jw beliefs, and then later came out to friends (actually, i was outed), i had a new awareness dawn on me one day.
LMAO
for anyone that looks at this thread, could you write something either profound or simply interesting so as to make the reader see the truth about "the truth"?
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What I don't understand is why you're all referring to Jehovahs Witnesses as 'the truth'. The lie is more appropriate.
Maybe minimus is a troll after all....
talked with my witness mom, 80 years old this morning - and apparently she is pretty stoked up about the bs my ex- bethel brother ( a cloned elder of 35 years ) said to her about all the changes at bethel going on.
obviously he still has inside ties at bethel.
to avoid being redundant ( as i know most of you have heard some of this stuff ), my mom explained to me that my brother told her , " they are selling off most of the buildings in brooklyn as in the next 3 years they plan to move the entire operation to patterson and upstate new york.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
friends:.
long time lurker, very occasional poster.
i have done the fade thing for 4 years now, and have not attended a meeting in over 2 years.
What Alymc said - therapy.
Talking with a human face can sometimes make all the difference in the world. Ex JW's have one of the highest incidences of needing therapy after leaving the high-control group.
I really do feel for you right now - been there, done that.
Take care.
i know from my own life experience, that repressed sexual expression leads to externalizing that repression and projecting it upon others.
fear, anger, and self loathing is the bottom line.
when i finially was freed of the jw beliefs, and then later came out to friends (actually, i was outed), i had a new awareness dawn on me one day.
Implication is judging
He reads your intentions and i really feel sorry for you
And how do you know he's being mocked? Who are you?
I'll mock him - Jehovah eats rotten lemons.
I'll mock her - Woman Jehovah eats rotten lemons.
Whatever god or deitey you believe in, just replace Jehovah with it. It'll make you feel better.
here's the link: .
http://religions.pewforum.org/.
thought it might be of interest to many here for discussion.
Just for the record Juni,
I am absolutely livid with you. I know that Gopher is too.
