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  Conditional love

  by noidea in

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  being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

  you are only loved if you tow the line.

  i only have one thing to say,.

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  gumby

  TO: REAL ELDER
  What do you define as "unacceptable behavior?
  Also.....would rebuking someone mean jesus didn't believe those he rebuked as being saved?
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  How many christian on this db

  by gumby in

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  i'm a newby here and was wondering the % of christians vs. .

  non.rough estimate fine.

  i sure like the comradery here for ex"s. but wonder why so many here leave their belief in god altogether.. what is it that caused disbelief?

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  gumby

  Hi all. I'm a newby here and was wondering the % of christians vs.
  non.Rough estimate fine. I sure like the comradery here for ex"s
  but wonder why so many here leave their belief in god altogether.
  What is it that caused disbelief?
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  What is Important in Your Life?

  by DougKelley in

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  what things in life are the most important to you individually?.

  please rank the following in order of importance to you.

  i realize that several things may rank close to, or exactly the same, but please rank them in order.. if you wish to remain anonymous, please email your answers to [email protected].

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  gumby

  1. others.....My faith
  2.Family
  3.relationship/friends
  4.peace with self
  5.personal freedom
  6.service to humanity(this should be up the list)
  7.peace with who I am
  8.practical wealth
  9.high wealth
  10.hobby
  11.career
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  What does your username mean?

  by closer2fine in

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  i was just wondering what everyone's username meant.

  i have my own guesses (sixofnine, silentlambs, slayerlayer-i'm almost afraid :o), amazing-enough said!,mommy, fredhall-is that your name?, ozziepost-from downunder, and the list goes on!

  please share!!

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  gumby

  Mine was given me by a workmate who is famous for giving nicknames to people. It basically was meant to mean "You Doofball".
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  Question for Silent Lambs

  by cnn77 in

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  sl (bill),.

  as someone with one toe still dangling in the truth i have a question for you.... if you had not gone through the pedophile experience and started your crusade....how would you have felt with regard to boards such as this one?

  obviously most other jw's believe this place is overrun by disgruntled apostates and would want nothing to do with anyone here.. i am just intrigued to know what you would have felt about this place prior to your experience (also about freeminds and ray franz).

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  gumby

  Sorry for the duplications folks! I goofed
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  Question for Silent Lambs

  by cnn77 in

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  sl (bill),.

  as someone with one toe still dangling in the truth i have a question for you.... if you had not gone through the pedophile experience and started your crusade....how would you have felt with regard to boards such as this one?

  obviously most other jw's believe this place is overrun by disgruntled apostates and would want nothing to do with anyone here.. i am just intrigued to know what you would have felt about this place prior to your experience (also about freeminds and ray franz).

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  gumby

  Nice to hear your sincere question to MR.Bowen.Jehovah's witnesses define an apostate as someone who leaves their organization because of lack of belief that it is God's chosen channel or organization.Regardless of how good these ones who leave are, or how much they still love God and his word, they are still called apostates by the organization.That is not fair nor true.
  No organization that claims to speak for God or claims that it is God's true channel, should ever shy away from members who have honest sincere questions concerning their beliefs. When witnesses go to a door and a householder questions them on their beliefs, they will spend hours trying to answer them and return again at another time if they cannot answer them at that time.
  If a baptized witness who has been loyal for many years has many questions and begins to inquire for answers he has to do it secretly because if the elders were to find out he is questioning they will question him weather or not he believes this is God's organization or not. Does this make sense? They should be more than happy to answer any and all sincere questions. Ask them about the 607 date and where they get this date from when all writings on this subject point to a different date and see how they respond. We are here for your support and appreciate your concern with your questions.
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  Question for Silent Lambs

  by cnn77 in

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  sl (bill),.

  as someone with one toe still dangling in the truth i have a question for you.... if you had not gone through the pedophile experience and started your crusade....how would you have felt with regard to boards such as this one?

  obviously most other jw's believe this place is overrun by disgruntled apostates and would want nothing to do with anyone here.. i am just intrigued to know what you would have felt about this place prior to your experience (also about freeminds and ray franz).

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  gumby

  Nice to hear your sincere question to MR.Bowen.Jehovah's witnesses define an apostate as someone who leaves their organization because of lack of belief that it is God's chosen channel or organization.Regardless of how good these ones who leave are, or how much they still love God and his word, they are still called apostates by the organization.That is not fair nor true.
  No organization that claims to speak for God or claims that it is God's true channel, should ever shy away from members who have honest sincere questions concerning their beliefs. When witnesses go to a door and a householder questions them on their beliefs, they will spend hours trying to answer them and return again at another time if they cannot answer them at that time.
  If a baptized witness who has been loyal for many years has many questions and begins to inquire for answers he has to do it secretly because if the elders were to find out he is questioning they will question him weather or not he believes this is God's organization or not. Does this make sense? They should be more than happy to answer any and all sincere questions. Ask them about the 607 date and where they get this date from when all writings on this subject point to a different date and see how they respond. We are here for your support and appreciate your concern with your questions.
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  Question for Silent Lambs

  by cnn77 in

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  2. friends

  sl (bill),.

  as someone with one toe still dangling in the truth i have a question for you.... if you had not gone through the pedophile experience and started your crusade....how would you have felt with regard to boards such as this one?

  obviously most other jw's believe this place is overrun by disgruntled apostates and would want nothing to do with anyone here.. i am just intrigued to know what you would have felt about this place prior to your experience (also about freeminds and ray franz).

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  gumby

  Nice to hear your sincere question to MR.Bowen.Jehovah's witnesses define an apostate as someone who leaves their organization because of lack of belief that it is God's chosen channel or organization.Regardless of how good these ones who leave are, or how much they still love God and his word, they are still called apostates by the organization.That is not fair nor true.
  No organization that claims to speak for God or claims that it is God's true channel, should ever shy away from members who have honest sincere questions concerning their beliefs. When witnesses go to a door and a householder questions them on their beliefs, they will spend hours trying to answer them and return again at another time if they cannot answer them at that time.
  If a baptized witness who has been loyal for many years has many questions and begins to inquire for answers he has to do it secretly because if the elders were to find out he is questioning they will question him weather or not he believes this is God's organization or not. Does this make sense? They should be more than happy to answer any and all sincere questions. Ask them about the 607 date and where they get this date from when all writings on this subject point to a different date and see how they respond. We are here for your support and appreciate your concern with your questions.
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  My Eldest

  by TR in

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  this is my eldest daughter, angie.

  she's 17, will be a senior in high school this fall, but is in college.

  she's an honor student.

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  gumby

  Very pretty lady TR. Is she a chip off the ole block...or does she take after mom?
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  Man Has a Soul. What do You Believe Now?

  by Treborr Jones in

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  i was just wondering if the ex-jw's here now believe you have a soul, or do you still hold on to the borgs claims of man/woman not having a soul.

  i for one know we do.

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  gumby

  Just wanted to introduce myself to the board as this is my first time .I look forward to joining in and feel this is a good honest forum with not much b.s.Much food for thought here and good questions. Talk at ya all later.....