Go back to the watchtower? You would have to have never believed it was false,..or...you know it is false but you want to go back because you cannot learn to function without it. Loss of family, friends, religion dosen't do the trick.
To belong to something makes you feel special , and so you go back as you can't find anything that makes you feel better.
To go back to an organization that has effected the lives of thousands with things such as, false prophecy,medical blunders that have cost the lives of an unknown amount, vaccinations,organ transplants,blood policy changes, suicides by the broken hearted who were expelled and lost family only because their consciences wouldn't allow them to believe the..."truth"........any longer. One would have to be emotionally weak to return to a group run by a bunch of senile old bastard's who don't even have the decency to say 'we are sorry" we have been wrong and hurt many"
Posts by gumby
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Why JWs and ex JWs Return to Watchtower 3
by Victor_E inthis post is an attempt to explain the paradoxical return of ex-jws back to the watchtower.
my premise is that a persons unconscious mind has a positive intent in leading them back to the former environment and the intent is of intrinsic value within individuals.. developmental psychology tells us there are six primary developmental stages in a persons life.
if a person experiences developmental gaps or underdevelopment of a stage all the others that follow will not develop properly and these will be affected.
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T.V.program on witnesses this monday
by gumby injust wanted to share with you a program airing this monday in redding calif. it's a local station on channel 11.. this is how the ad reads;.
"the watchtower society is presenting a series of programs on redding community access channel 11 regarding the teaching's of jehovah's witnesses.
the series,"bible principals aid the community", debuts at 6pm.. monday".
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gumby
Hi all
Just wanted to share with you a program airing this monday in redding calif. It's a local station on channel 11.
This is how the ad reads;
"The watchtower society is presenting a series of programs on redding community Access channel 11 regarding the teaching's of jehovah's witnesses.
The series,"Bible principals aid the community", Debuts at 6pm.
monday"
You can read this for yourself at www.redding.com
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Very New Light
by Abaddon init has now been realised that the the inside leg measurements of several kings of israel had been left out of the count of years that traditionally resulted in 1914.. with this new light we have a clear demonstation of the power of biblical prophecy, as the count of years now ends in the fall of 2001, exactly when the 'king of the north' made himself apparent.. thus, we can again truly highlight jesus' words 'this generation will by no means pass away...' as being applicable now!
what joy, both for those that remained faithful to death, not running ahead of the fetid deodourant salve but waiting on jehovah, and for those who are alive now.
a generation is a score of years or so, so it is unlikely we will still see this wicked system of things in operation in 2025!.
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"It has now been realised that the the inside leg measurements of several Kings of Israel had been left out of the count of years that traditionally resulted in 1914".
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An exjw's concerns and questions.
by NoLongerAjw inso i have been thinking and wondering, as exwitnesses how does this whole possibilty of war scare you.?.
we were taught for so long that things like this lead to the gt.
i thnk being a witness for so long makes this more scary then it really is.. i my self will probably go hide the day the world cries peace and security.. and is that something that my happen if they get all of the terriost?
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NolongeraJw: I think much of what you are afraid of is from JW upbringing. Just because the US. is involved with major conflict, dosen't mean the end is near. Third world countries have been battling for years. It took me a while to rid myself of these men induced fears and they still haunt me and I have been out for 6 years.
You are not alone in being shook up over the recent tradgedy's as we all are. You will find a number of opinions on this board so don't get uptight when you read them. Be patient. Talk to ya later......off to work. P.S.
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growing pains
by finnrot inhello all my hurt fellow exj.w.s out there.. i just recently discovered all these j.w.
sites on the internet when i did a search for jehovahs witnesses on google.
wow, this is fantastic.
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gumby
Welcome aboard finnrot. I think you will like it here. Lot's of good people here and lots of various ideas on life in general. Have fun my friend!!!!!!!
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Bush's speech -- I'll be the first to admit...
by Seeker in...it was an effective speech.
i was impressed, and thought it only fair to say so here given the recent political discussions.
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I saw no gestures!! I think he'll get a W and have to work on it next speech.
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Where are the People of God to be found today?
by stevieb1 inthis is a matter i have wrestled with.
who are the people of god, where are they to be found.
i feel that there are some within the watchtower organization as there are in other churches.
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BobsGirl: I didn't get to read all your posts.
I wanted to know what this path is that you have found?
I believe God did make us diversified however he made his
son the only means for salvation for those that have
the opportunity to believe in him. I am sorry if
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Where are the People of God to be found today?
by stevieb1 inthis is a matter i have wrestled with.
who are the people of god, where are they to be found.
i feel that there are some within the watchtower organization as there are in other churches.
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Bobsgirl said:So can I assume that we won't be finding the people of god in China, the middle east ... India
Says who? The bible say's " those who have no law and do the THINGS in the law have the law in themselves'(something like that anyway)
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Christians and dubs/treated same here
by gumby inhey guys.
i got an idea as to why there is the same bitterness by many/not all, on this board twards christians like there is to dubs.
you feel you have found it to be a crock just as the borg is and it makes you madder than crap to see people duped a second time.
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SaintSatan: Thanks for your honest reply. I don't have a problem with using your name on here unless I thought that you felt you were an agent of his.I see you do not. Again....thanks for your response.
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Christians and dubs/treated same here
by gumby inhey guys.
i got an idea as to why there is the same bitterness by many/not all, on this board twards christians like there is to dubs.
you feel you have found it to be a crock just as the borg is and it makes you madder than crap to see people duped a second time.
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SaintSatan:
Please don't take this personal... but.......what is with your name here? I thought to myself......I hope this guy dosen't believe in satan and now no longer believes in God. I would wonder if facts that are lacking are what makes non believers disbelieve in the bible, then why would anyone believe in satan who has not been factually proven existant? And where would anyone who disbelieves the bible get the name and idea of satan from?