yes, it's that time again!
time to put your feet up, relax with something nice to drink, and muse over dubdom for a couple of minutes.. last weekend we asked: "what did you like most about the meetings?
" so, to be fair to objectivity, we should ask for the 'other side'.
Well...being you named all the ones already, I guess I'll have to pick a couple of your choices.
6. Repetitious public talks - heard it all before!
7. Poor speakers.
When YOU can look up the scripture the speaker is going to use BEFORE he asks you to turn there.......you know it must be repetitious.
i've been a member of this board since summer of last year.
i'm also a member of several jw groups on yahoo.
i love posting stories on the pedophilia scandal or the un stuff just to see what everyone else says.
so is what you saying is dat i do not know how spel good. i am smart as you cuz i went to the 12 grade. i do not go to colige becuz the end was coming and mom say to pineer. so this is what i like to do is pineer. i work as janitor at night wif my other jehova freinds cuz we are all janitors. i like doing this work so's i can pineer for jehova
so with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
I want to thank all who helped out with the answer to this question.
I know it takes some work for many of these posts and I appreciate it.
Hopefully someone can direct me with my post above this one.
so with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
Either I am braindead...(and that's a real possibility) or nobody has anwered one thing...............
These books of the bible that were put together by the church.....................WHO wrote the books????????????
Were they REALLY Followers of Jesus who wrote them?
Where did the church get these copies from the original writers?
William Pennwell's post contained this quote: "The New Testament as a collection of texts is a product of the second century, as the church figured out which books are sacred, which books are authoritative and which ones are not"
So this is saying....there REALLY were books written by followers of Jesus that were written BEFORE 100 AD and "John's" was the last book?
There were many writers who wrote of Jesus yet only SOME of these writings were decided to be included in the Bible..... right?
In view of this.....if there were many writers who wrote about Jesus......dosen't this confirm he TRUELY existed???....or
DID ALL THESE WRITERS LIE
ABOUT SUCH A MAN?
I'm sorry if I'm not making my point clear but I hope this makes my original post more clear.
so with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
So from what a lot of the comments have said so far is this:
Stories in the Old Testement were made up or at least much of what is in it is fabricated stories .......LIES; eg. THE NEPHILIM, SAMSON, NOAH, THE FLOOD, etc.
The New Testement, according to some, also has some truths...but has....the trumphed up story of Jesus the God-Man, who in reality was a normal fleshly self proclaimed prophet, or he NEVER EXISTED.
Did all these writers Lie, just to believe in something, if there were really this many writers? Or...Did men write their own books of what they wanted people to believe, and claimed these were the writings of earlier eye witnesses ...and they just copied them?
The last thing I just said is what I could use some help with.
Is there a way of KNOWING WHO'S STORY IS TRUTH?
Will personal research bring us to a conclusion we can feel comfortable with, or will we wonder all the time........"what if I'm wrong"?
I wish the hell I knew cuz it's really bugg'in me!
just kidding!
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"as every one knows, there are mistakes in the bible" - the watchtower, april 15, 1928, p. 126 .
Yeah.....Im going back too!
I was just asked a few days ago by a elder that is in the same trade I am in if I was still disfellowshipped. I said yes..at which he said.."why don't you come back"?
I said.."cuz I don't WANT to come back"
He said "why"
Ahh!!! I set it up so well!
I proceeded to tell him why and he suggested "I take all my questions to the Judicial Committee that DFed me.....and see what they say"
I have always wanted to do this! I just wonder how it would turn out?
Others experiences tell me it would be in vain.
I do feel some things that would be said, might make some think about some things and perhaps enlighten them on some things they never knew.
Don't know if I will ever do it.
so with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
So with ALL the writers around during,and after Jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the Bible?
Did God say...."I want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word. I am going to tell them so they get it right"
Is that how it happened? Or did a group of CHURCH officials decide who's books and writings would be part of the Bible?
If it was the latter.....i'm a little worried!
Who were these MEN who decided? Catholics, Jews....who?
What I am asking here is ADVICE.....on a book that explains in detail this entire subject. We hear this subject often on this board, but I have never examined the truthfulness of the subject.
Also....a book that makes parallels of Christian beliefs that appear to be taken from Pagan beliefs.
*** awake!
1975 august 22 p.25 *** .
is the turning of people from the clergy to the psychiatrists a healthy phenomenon?
So here is the advice. Go to someone...." who will not shrink back from administering needed reproof or counsel so that one may get healed.
Who the hell wants to get reproved or counseled when your ready to blow your brains out!!! Good Gawd!
This advice clearly is for witnesses to go to other mature witnesses as has been mentioned..right?
What about the millions at the doors who had read that article?
Were they supposed to find a local kingdom hall and go inside and see if they could find a mature christian witness to tell their problems to?
Or....would they misunderstand the AWAKE'S clear advice and go to someone in their church from christendom only to find out that advice won't work unless it's a Kingdom Hall you must get your friend from?
What a sick bastard little Freddie was...this sounds like HIS reasoning.
when jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.
it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.
one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.
Yk said......waaaaaaay back on page one; "Jesus is the founder and head of a unique spiritual organization that was foretold in prophecy to be a people who are called by God's own name of Jehovah.
Let's say I start a church called the "Yahweh's"...or "Yahweh Witnesses"? If I did....then I and my group would fit the criteria for who God's people really are better than the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
According to the WT's OWN definition....Yahweh is the PROPER pronunciation for God's name...NOT Jehovah!
Why would his true name be lost if he thought it was so important?
another question.. this one is for all those that began doubting the organisation when they were an obedient jw.. although i am sure you rarely shared it with anyone, what was the one problem you had with a certain jw only doctrine?.
what i mean is, what little gremlins lurked at the back of your mind?
what were the doubts that you kept hidden and what made you finally act on them?.
I'll let someone else do the dinosour one.
I had doubts about Elders and servants being appointed by Holy Spirit when many that were appointed, were later deleted because of some 'secret problem" they had, was found out about.
The question was......how were they appointed by 'Holy Spirit'?
