the latest moniker to describe us is making the rounds at a circuit assembly near you: w.a.w.
wicked apostate worldlings.. sat through a saturday circuit assembly, haven't been to one in years, stunningly it was a mix of deja vu and cloistered brainwashing.
deja vu in that the talks could have come from 1966, nothing has changed about the end being near, and harsher with respect to family who are not jws.
I couldn't sit and listen to that crap without throwing up.
I will never attend another Meeting of any sort, except I may attend a family members funeral, but if there is going to be a graveside talk or similar, a shorty in the Crem say, I will probably just attend that, even then nausea will not be far away.
i've recently been reunited with some close family and friends having been away from them for some time in another country.
to begin with, i was a little apprehensive as to how they would treat me.
they don't know the extent of my feelings or knowledge (or what i've been up to!
I have felt exactly the same emotions that you felt Cedars, and because of those very emotions I avoid too much contact with my Jw family.
What is so very hard for me is biting my tongue, for instance my older sister will delight in telling me how well a B/study is "progressing" and "doing so well in the ministry".
It is on the tip of my tongue to say something like "Oh dear, another life wasted " or something similar, but I hold my tongue, usually.
The funny thing is , I resolved awhile ago not to be so considerate of their feelings, they do not consider mine, but the opportunity has not arisen yet to put them in their place.
I think I will do it in a fairly kindly way by saying something like "I have moved on now, as you know, and I am really not interested in that sort of thing "
In your position at present it is not as easy for you as for me, but before long you will be where I am, and able to say a little more.
Be assured that the emotions sort themselves out as time goes on, you will feel better.
As said so well above, it is not you who are in the wrong, even though they do not know it, it is them.
two fabulous individuals who bring such a lot to this forum!.
have a fantastic day together .
heres to many more x. love paula and kev x.
Congrats from Wobble and Mrs Wobble !
Have a great day y'all !
in 1974 i had moved to california from texas and my nowhere jw janitor job to a real career in a field i loved.
(art).
i had packed my jw wife and 3 kids in my 1970 ford maverick and drove into the unknown.. mind you, this was on the very eve of a very "important date in human history".
I agree with the above advice , but there is a whole huge bunch of people "Going with the flow" and not rocking any boats etc. "for the sake of family "
How long will they hold their tongue and sit there in the K.Hall giving tacit support to the religion ?
How will they free their family, if the family think everything is O.K ?
What a waste of lives.
despite admitting that he was "flabbergasted" that the world still existed, camping insisted his erroneous warning had in fact been correct - but that only a spiritual "judgment day" had occurred.. lol.
read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/10/13/harold-campings-back-with-a-brand-new-doomsday-prediction/#ixzz1ahlzm0js.
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Ah the old "It happened invisibly" excuse. Like Jesus coming in1914 etc
Silly old fart, he is as silly as the old farts of Brooklyn, soon to be Warwick or wherever the cult compound is going to be.
karl marks 1844 used these words.. i meet alot of witnesses who have a glazed look in there eyes talking about one day being in "paradise" and having a pet lamb and lion.....an elder who is extremely jolly and enthusiastic about the truth, told me against doctors orders regarding his pnumonia he will keep pioneering this month???
?....religious people are just hooked on this drug that makes them feel better about death and suffering..
Thank you P Sac. for your explanation of dear old beardy Karl Marx's views on religion.
I have read the full quote before, and I too came to realise that K.M was not overly concerned about training his guns on religion, he rightly appraised that the oppresion of the proletariat came from the ruling classes, although they were aided and abetted by religion.
Yours is a very good summary of his thoughts, and you have stopped us Apostates from doing something the JW's do , taking a quote out of context, as they have of course, a number of times, with this very quote .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndhomycmaxq.
living without blind spots is better.
BTT, if just for the great thread title !
top court weighs free speech vs. hate protectionby laura payton, cbc newsposted: oct 12, 2011 2:50 pm etlast updated: oct 12, 2011 10:08 pm et accessibility linksthe supreme court in ottawa began hearing a case wednesday that pits freedom of expression against laws banning hate speech.
(adrian wyld/canadian press)related story content.
relatedrelated linkswhen is it hate speech?
Get at it, you guys in Canada !
The harvest is ripe, but the workers (XJW's) are few !
This has got legs and is running in the U.K, it would be great if you can get the Courts in canada to look at the "Mentally diseased" article.
like many of you i am fading and am trying to stay the course rather than be dfed due to family ties.
but i so badly want to simply write a letter and be rid of this giant weight on my back lately.
just like a bandaid that is easier to just tear off, i guess.. .
Good on yer Ray !
i found this list below on another site.. you've no doubt seen these lists...or lists similar to them: they give you marked ways to identify a cult.. now, i'm sure many of us agree that these signs eerily match a certain watchtower-slangin' group we're all familiar with.. and im sure that what i'm about to bring up has probably been discussed here sometime before 'my' time.. but, look at these 'cult i.d.
symptoms' below...and let your mind go.
: let your mind freely wander.. who else do these signs apply to...if you think wider?
It does not pay for sure to call the WT/JW religion a cult to a believeing active Dub. You will get hung up on the meaning/usage of the word.
The word is not always used in a pejorative sense, as noted above. The main thing to focus attention on is the high control, especially the control of the mind.
That is simply evil, to imprison someones mind.
Having said that, I am looking forward to asking an old friend of mine from my old Congo. when I next see him :
"Are you still in the Governing Body worshipping cult ?" I will ask this of him because I believe it will make him think, it might also make him punch me of course.
