someone a week or so ago posted a link to a youtube channel by the ex-gilead bible school guy (sorry, i know ex-gilead bible school guy is not his name, but i forgot what it was).. many, many people have had the "light bulb" go off after they have read parts of or all of the bible without using the wbts "research" material.
some of these people think that the jws have a twisted understanding of the bible and others come to the realization that the bible is just a made up book of stories.. either way, reading the bible on its own helps you to see that jw's have it all wrong no matter how you slice it up.
and you can see that even if you read their own heavily altered nwt bible.
Cheers Sir82,
I can see they will use something like this,but you only have to think about the context.a jewish proselyte who knew nothing of Jesus,to see that it does not fit todays circumstance,and when you think of Pauls words about not listening to anyone who comes to you with more than he preached,
"Christ impaled"
then any interpretation that adds an idea must be going beyond what is written.
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someone a week or so ago posted a link to a youtube channel by the ex-gilead bible school guy (sorry, i know ex-gilead bible school guy is not his name, but i forgot what it was).. many, many people have had the "light bulb" go off after they have read parts of or all of the bible without using the wbts "research" material.
some of these people think that the jws have a twisted understanding of the bible and others come to the realization that the bible is just a made up book of stories.. either way, reading the bible on its own helps you to see that jw's have it all wrong no matter how you slice it up.
and you can see that even if you read their own heavily altered nwt bible.
My super-Dub sister came out with that load of bollocks on Sunday when I was visiting my Mum,(she lives with them)that you need someone to explain God's Word to you. Where do they get that from? I cannot think of a single scripture that would give you the idea that you needed another man to explain it to you,unless he was Jesus.
She then came out with this amazing bit of circular reasoning and cognitive dissonance all in one:
"Nobody who has read the Bible on their own has come to the same conclusions as the FDS"
Can you believe that? She said it and thought it proved her point!
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the illustration in my question was inspired by the great mr flipper who likened going back to the borg as "swimming back to the titanic".
it seems to me that the many and various things that woke us all up are like iceflows to the wtbs,little bumps that they shrug off and ignore,it dosn't seem to matter that these things are huge to us,and shattered our faith that the wt had any connection with truth.. so as the u.n debacle,peadophile scandals,lies exposed etc etc are all ignored by the passengers on the wt titanic,the band is still playing and the ship is unsinkable from their point of view.. what would be the iceburg that would rip a hole in the side of this floating ship of lies?.
i cannot think of anything bigger than the things it now shrugs off,any ideas?.
The illustration in my question was inspired by the great Mr Flipper who likened going back to the Borg as "swimming back to the Titanic"
It seems to me that the many and various things that woke us all up are like iceflows to the WTBS,little bumps that they shrug off and ignore,it dosn't seem to matter that these things are HUGE to us,and shattered our faith that the WT had any connection with truth.
So as the U.N debacle,peadophile scandals,lies exposed etc etc are all ignored by the passengers on the WT Titanic,the band is still playing and the ship is unsinkable from their point of view.
What would be the iceburg that would rip a hole in the side of this floating ship of lies?
I cannot think of anything bigger than the things it now shrugs off,any ideas?
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this was part of a letter i sent to some family and friends........ i have a few things i have really thought about that may need to happen for me to get my faith back.
the first would be for the be for the society or the governing body to actually share with me what they claimed in their first letter to me to have, this indirect evidence that the divine name appeared in the original writings of the christian greek scriptures.
if they do not even have that and will not provide it, then a serious apology is in order for me and all other witnesses, and an explanation for their blatent lie, and a revision of the new world translation is in order removing the name jehovah from the new testament.. as long as this does not happen, i will feel i have been defrauded.. i would also like someone to show me using only the bible how we can arrive at the date 1914 as the arrival of jesus christ, and the end of the gentile times.
Thanks Oomps,
Good points all,but the only faith you seem to have lost irretrievably is in a large publishing corporation with an HQ in Brooklyn. That business is run by men,for men and is riddled with error,as are ALL organised religions.
Faith in anything else is your choice,and good luck happiness and wellbeing to you and yours.
Keep up the great posts!
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i want to change the color of blue to something else.
thanks!.
Bump coz ditto.
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i only stop in casually once or twice a week.
without fail there is a thread on the first page that starts with this line,.
my (fill in the blank) is trying to (fill in the blank) !!!!!".
Cheers LDH,
I am sure the points you make will be helpfull to many,but sometimes we ask advice of our good friends on here to help us in areas we have no experience of.
For example I am trying to "fade" from the WTS (I think I may have blown that at the Weekend,I lost it with my Super-dub sister,but thats for another thread).
I found the cool advice on how to do it so helpfull and supportive (thanks to all!) but I am willing and able to assert myself when called so to do,but thanks again for posting,it may keep some of the "Fluff" type threads down to a minimum.
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would the average jw think that the number of 144,00 was a literal number, even if the partakers were over 144,000?
or would they just go with what the gb says?.
i think that they would say that it is figurative literal number.
I suppose it would be fun to have a thread of oxymorons that they could use to further cloud the fact that their exegesis is downright wacky throughout.
I do think this is another doctrine in trouble for them,along with 1914,the generation etc, etc. but they will "explain" it all somehow and the R&f will swallow it all as usual.
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we`ve all heard it...."jehovah`s witness`s the fastest growing religon on earth!!
".....it must be true..the wbt$ says it`s true!..........................................................................................................................................how many of you remember the endless line-ups just to get into a kingdom hall,any kingdom hall?!
!..people are lined up around the block just to get in!..there are never enough seats..it`s standing room only,in every kindom hall!
From the period between 2000 and 2005, Pentecostalism experienced a global growth rate of 488% expanding from 115 million to 588.5 million [ 12 ] global adherents. This classes Pentecostalism as the fastest growing religion world wide
The above quote I copied and pasted from Wiki.
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my mother told me that my beloved headstrong jw aunt was crying up a storm because of sunday's watchtower lessons on how to treat someone who has left the flock and treat them with kindness in hope of their return.
my aunt thought immediately of me and how nasty she is to my existence, taking the lead in totally ignoring me in her presence.. so now she feels awful about her treatment....but why???
simply because a watchtower article told her so.
"Swim back to the Titanic" like the analogy Mr Flipper! And while I'm here,a big THANK YOU for your thoughtfull and informative posts,keep 'em coming!
Just aquestion though for anybody,I don't see much advance in what is actually said in treating inactive ones,just the usual,is there something I have missed?
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i know i am an old fart and a pedant,but things spelled incorrectly stand out, like copy of c.o.c in a kingdom hall library.. i don't think it matters too much say,posting on here,or in life generally,so many people make mistakes,but i do think it detracts from your credibility and your message in important stuff i.e a d.a letter for example,any excuse and dub's will ignore what you say.. so,is it not worth checking?
one word that many on here have a problem with is apostasy,often putting a c where the last s should be.. is having a problem with this word a true example of irony?.
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I know I am an old fart and a pedant,but things spelled incorrectly STAND OUT, like copy of C.O.C in a Kingdom Hall Library.
I don't think it matters too much say,posting on here,or in life generally,so many people make mistakes,but I do think it detracts from your credibility and your message in important stuff i.e a D.A letter for example,any excuse and Dub's will ignore what you say.
So,is it not worth checking? One word that many on here have a problem with is ApostaSy,often putting a C where the last S should be.
Is having a problem with this word a true example of Irony?
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