odie67

Joined

• started 9 topics
• posted 86 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by odie67

• 
  9

  The Resurrection of the Righteous and the Unrighteous

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one saturday morning after eating at a restaurant, my family and a group of witnesses left the restaurant at about the same time.

  so, i struck up a conversation and eventuallly tactfully questioned them about how they hoped to have their sins forgiven since official wt doctrine is that jesus is only the mediator for the 144,000. .

  after bantering a bit and trying to have it both ways, one man essentially claimed that the whole point was moot because there was going to be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  If the wages of sin is death...my question is: If your are ressurected what is your status? Do you have a clean slate? how are you righteous or

  unrighteous?
• 
  16

  Would you Agree with this?

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it occured to me that when the new, young elders, ministerial servants and so on take over, they are further and further away from the origin of the witnesses.

  when the lies were fresh in the minds of all, when people saw first hand what was done wrong, giving them the reasons to jump ship and enjoy life, without fear of making a mistake, because they had a good idea of the facts.

  these things have since been brushed under the carpet and the circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants and so on are more naive and clueless (in my opinion) than ever.. the same applies to the rank and file witnesses.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  I asked a relative if i could look at their KM. I was shocked. It's so simplified. Actually there was no information of any real sort.

  not like it used to be when you had to read the km and look up bible verses etc. It was like reading a notice about a garage sale.

  it's smaller with bigger print.
• 
  6

  The Ultimate bachelor pad....men living in the raw

  by odie67 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  when i first met my husband, he had i guess what some men would consider the ultimate apartment.

  big screen tv.

  an old sofa, one knife, one fork, one spoon, a pot and a skillet.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  When I first met my husband, he had i guess what some men would consider the ultimate apartment. Big screen tv. an old sofa, one knife, one fork, one spoon, a pot and a skillet. odd cups from various fast food places. one face towel....a card table and a video game. but it was the most comfortable place i've ever been in my life....anyone else experience this?
• 
  15

  Of the one's DF'd here, how many have been called on by the Elders?

  by Fishbulb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i left the organization one of the reasons i did so was because of the hypocrisy i saw within the congregation regarding sheepherding the weak.

  people who were struggling to make meetings, ones who were house-ridden due to illness or depression, ones who don't keep a prominent position in the hall, these ones were all ignored.

  i was one who never ever ever missed a meeting and in august i suddenly stopped going.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  Not one call from the elders that df'd me. Not one call from the elders at the congregation I transferred to even though i attended meetings faithfully for about 5 months and they know how to contact me. Even when i would visit on occassion....not one word.

  whatever i'm done....i really believe now that it is not the truth...
• 
  15

  Elders are responsible to take care of lost sheep or they are not?

  by asilentone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  show me some quotes from the wt publications that the elders are responsible to take care of lost sheep and they are not responsible for the lost sheep, etc....(flip-flop quotes)

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  The elders don't care. They all can kiss my black booty.
• 
  22

  The WTB&TS best defense against apostates

  by Gregor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had 2 nice ladies come to the door this morning.

  i played it very cool as long as i could, asking "dumb" questions like what ever happened to your 1914 generation teaching?

  i knew it could only go so far and sure enough they began to smell a dirtyratcat.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  I've been in my area for about 2 years now. I live in a metro-type area. There is a kingdom hall down the street. I have not encountered not one JW in the mininistry. I see mormons everyday. but the Large army of JW's preaching to save mankind....NONE NADDA.
• 
  77

  songs that help you cry....

  by wings in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no matter how much you want to avoid it...crying is necessary sometimes.

  for me, i need help with it....too many distractions in my life.

  i almost have to plan crying....so for me music aides in releasing emotion, helps me just be me for an interval of time.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  "Fix You"
  
  When you try your best, but you don't succeed
  When you get what you want, but not what you need
  When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep
  Stuck in reverse
  
  And the tears come streaming down your face
  When you lose something you can't replace
  When you love someone, but it goes to waste
  Could it be worse?
  
  Lights will guide you home
  And ignite your bones
  And I will try to fix you
  
  And high up above or down below
  When you're too in love to let it go
  But if you never try you'll never know
  Just what you're worth
  
  Lights will guide you home
  And ignite your bones
  And I will try to fix you
  
  Tears stream down your face
  When you lose something you cannot replace
  Tears stream down your face
  And I...
  
  Tears stream down on your face
  I promise you I will learn from my mistakes
  Tears stream down your face
  And I...
  
  Lights will guide you home
  And ignite your bones
  And I will try to fix you
  

  "I love coldpay!"
  
• 
  36

  Did/Does God answer your prayers?

  by song19 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my spiritual journey, which includes trying to decide if i still believe in god anymore or not i am beginning to question if god listened to my prayers or even answered them.

  i think i had a track record of praying more when i needed something.

  terrible i know.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  my prayers that i have in my heart silently have been answered but not the verbal ones from my lips.
• 
  17

  Misleading advice at the Hall.

  by edmond dantes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  words of wisdom at the kingdom hall went something like " don't marry for looks because looks fade.

  " what i want to know is if the person you married turns out to be a crabby old miserable so and so how do you cope with ugly personality plus ugly looks.i mean if you marry a looker at least you have enjoyed some vision of delight, if you get stuck with both you are in a double bind.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  i was engaged to marry and i was about 19 yrs old (virgin) i'm working in service with this older sister and this is what she said

  sister: "how do you know if he'll fit?"

  me: "huh?"

  sister: " i know sisters who have that problem"

  me: "um i don't know what you're talking about"

  sister: "everyone is not compatible"
• 
  41

  Why the end is sooo close! Latest illogical JW logic

  by Quandary in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.

  all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.

  almost verbatim!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  odie67

  Now when I was j-dub they said that black people had their turn ruling back when pharaoh was running thangs. (i'm joking about it.. but they really used to say that)