Posts by Metsman

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Metsman

Mister Worf, I've never been treated badly, so you are delusional.

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Metsman

You people are very negative. Have a nice day.

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Bible history proves this, if you believe in it. Jehovah would allow wickedness to continue during the time of Ancient Israel and then at a time of his choosing, he took care of the situations. In 607 BCE the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem because of their wickedness and hardened hearts towards his requirements. But it was prophesized decades in advance that it would happen. He allowed time to pass. So, it is the same with all other things in the congregation. Sometimes there is a quick resolution, other times in takes a period of time. But in the end, the congregation stays clean. It depends what you consider FACT though.

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Metsman

Well, I don't know the whole story Quandry, but there are examples in the bible during the Apostle Paul's day of congregations that lose Jehovah's holy spirit because things are not clean in the congregation. Some congregations are dissolved. The point is, in a normally operated congregation these things do not happen and you see the happiness and family like atmosphere because of it. I'm not sure what your daughter did, but there must have been some kind of proof she was doing something. Elders don't just walk up to a person and accuse them of things. That's silly. And if it were such a widespread problem then the religion would not continue to grow as it is.

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what to say?

by xig28 in

hello i just started a new profile here but i have been wandering around here for awhile.i have seen many stories somewhat similar to what i have right now.

i have read many post from people here and they have been somewhat helpful ,but now i need help with a little of my own problem.

for future refrences i apologize if my story isnt as descriptive as i want it to be but please read until the very end.. well for starters i am 16, yes i am young and have my entire life ahead of me to enjoy but idk if i can fully enjoy it but please just listen to my story.

Metsman

Dude, you are 16. I think you should concentrate on your schooling and what you're going to do after that rather than worrying about a 15 year old girl. You're both too young for a serious commitment. And none of us should ever try to change another person. The minute you try to change her, the girl you know will change.

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Would you support a witness who was refusing a transfusion?

by Caedes in

i was thinking about what i would do if a family member was in the situation of refusing a blood transfusion.

if the doctors were trying to force them to accept a transfusion, would i support my family members right to choose or would i take the position that they are brainwashed and are incapable of making a rational choice on the matter?

does the fact that they are hopelessly ill informed take away from their right to make a choice that they know will kill them?

Metsman

Junction-Guy, cults do not number 7 million and have 90,000 congregations worldwide. Jehovah's Witnesses are in over 230 lands. Our numbers continue to grow each year while other religions numbers decrease.

Some need to do their research in here. I also know an 80 year old man who had open heart surgery with no blood. They have the technology to do it, you just have to go to the right hospitals. Not all hospitals are equipped to give bloodless medical care.

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Metsman

I got bored, that's why I'm here Snakesinthetower. I personally know of a situation where two people fooled around with each other and it didn't come out for 2 years. After that it was dealt with. The point is, things do not need to happen in our own timetables. Jehovah chooses the proper time to reveal things. I've also spoken to apostates like yourself in the past. One used to live next door to my brother. You bash other people's hopes and replace it with nothing but despair.

Treating the woman as the "weaker vessel" in the bible refers to the fact that they are emotionally weaker than men. So as such, husbands need to give them some TLC. There's nothing in the bible that supports abusing women. I have never seen women abused in the congregation. Maybe in this instance, the man felt overwhelmed and his imperfections pushed him over the edge with her, because she was too hard to deal with. I don't know. But what I'm saying is, if he is in the wrong, Jehovah will deal with it in due time. That does not excuse the wife's sin of committing adultery, but hopefully she bounces back from that and gets her life in order so that she can be a strong mother for her child.

And while we're on the subject of brainwashing... should we not look to the other religions as such? How many people in other so-called Christian religions can even find scriptures in the bible? So if they can't do that and are just taking the word of their priest or minister as fact, then that is the definition of brainwashing. JWs are encouraged to research things that are not immediately understood.

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Would you support a witness who was refusing a transfusion?

by Caedes in

i was thinking about what i would do if a family member was in the situation of refusing a blood transfusion.

if the doctors were trying to force them to accept a transfusion, would i support my family members right to choose or would i take the position that they are brainwashed and are incapable of making a rational choice on the matter?

does the fact that they are hopelessly ill informed take away from their right to make a choice that they know will kill them?

Metsman

Because of people like Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood, medicine has adapted to use bloodless techniques. Hospitals like in Englewood, NJ for example have the technology to perform major surgeries without blood. My father has had hip and knee replacements without the use of blood. Recovery time is faster and you don't have to worry about getting a disease or mishandling of blood by technicians. Thousands die every year just from getting the wrong blood type. The risk isn't worth it. In time, using blood will be obsolete.

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Metsman

Your friend needs to see a psychiatrist Lisa. But if she did have sex with her husband after telling him what she did, then that is a sign of forgiveness and that she wants to continue things with him. Her son is not going to lose his soul.... He has nothing to do with what his mother does.... Again, if her husband did everything you are saying, he should have been disciplined. JW's believe that Jesus is the head of the congregation and with God's holy spirit, keeps it clean. If the man is doing bad, he will be disciplined.

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

Metsman

First of all, some of what I am reading here is misguided. It sounds like your friend has mental health issues, which nowadays in this crazy world is common. Jehovah's Witnesses do not condemn getting counsel outside of their ranks. Sometimes a situation is severe enough that a mental health professional is needed. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and my ex-wife is bipolar. She made similiar accusations about me and when we got divorced I ended up with the kids because she knew I was better suited to care for them. She ended up moving 1000 miles away with her boyfriend. I believe there are two sides to every story. Maybe the husband in this situation feels like he had to take control of everything because his wife does not have her feet planted on the ground. But I can tell you that it sounds like this woman is not telling the whole story. The elders of congregations are not there to control people, but to shephard and keep the congregation clean from scriptural wrongdoing. If the husband is truly being abusive, in time it will come out and be dealt with. And if her husband cheated on her, the elders would never blame her for it. That is ridiculous. If there is proof, he would be disciplined.