Posts by Galileo

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Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

by minimus in

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i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

"Top 10 Grievances Against the Bible"

by leavingwt in

lady atheist.

my top ten grievances against the bible .

1. authority -- not -- it was compiled, copied, edited, codified and translated by men.

Galileo

1. The New Testament did away with the one good thing about the Old Testament laws: Multiple wives and concubines.

Also, as long as men were allowed to have multiple wives, lesbianism was just fine (the OT never mentions it), for obvious reasons I think (Menage A Trois, anyone?). As soon as it's one wife to a man, all of a sudden lesbianism is specifically forbidden. "If us men can't be involved, there's no reason you women should have any fun either!"

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Can you recommend some movies/videos?

by OnTheWayOut in

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an ex-jw meetup group i attended just watchted worlds apart together and the host wants to do this type of thing more often.. i would love to see religulous, but the group would be divided on such a movie.. i suggested the documentary, jesus camp and september dawn.. do you have any suggestions i can pass along?.

Galileo

The Invention of Lying was going to be my suggestion. It feels a little long in parts but the message is fantastic. Also "Creation" about the philosophical struggle Darwin went through wrestling with the implications of the impact of his theory on religious people, especially is wife. Incredible and widely overlooked movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgoS3vSE0k

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Did you have a relationship with...

by stillin9 in

when you were in the org, did you ever really have a relationship with jehovah?

if so, how did this relationship manifest itself?

was it just a warm fuzzy feeling when you prayed?

Galileo

So a Universe with 3 Trillion galaxies and planet earth is NOT enough evidence?

No it isn't.

How do you know that he existed? A book told you that he existed and was one of America's presidents? How do you know that for sure, you never met him....
Have you ever even met your great, great, great Grand dad? How do you know he existed? How do you know for sure he was your great, great, great Grand dad?

This is a variation on the "How do you know Iceland exists" logical fallacy. The existence of Iceland or Abraham Lincoln is established by so much evidence that it would take a truly astonishing explanation and mountains of evidence as to how it's possible that those things actually don't exist. Invisible all powerful beings are not supported by the same degree of evidence. The same line of reasoning could be used to establish the existence of bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, or unicorns: "So what that you've never seen Bigfoot riding a unicorn. You've never been to Iceland and you believe that exists!"

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Get 'deleted' or resign as a ministerial servant?

by trevorbv in

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i'm a ministerial servant for some years now, but reached to the conclusion that i must get out of jws as soon as possible.

i can no longer waste my time in field service, at the kh or doing menial jobs for the congregation.

for some months now my field report is with one digit at the hours section and with empty spaces in magazines, brochures and the others.

Galileo

I went the route of waiting for them to delete me due to the fact that I was married to a very zealous pioneer. I acted like I was doing everything I could do to turn in four or five hours a month. In truth even those 4 or 5 hours were totally fabricated and by the time they actually deleted me I hadn't actually been out in service for over two years. They finally met with me to warn me about my potential deletion when the CO rolled around, then waited another six months for his next visist before they actually did it. At that time I was giving a lot of Sunday talks and had other responsibilities in the hall so they didn't want to delete me. It took forever. If I had it to do over again, I would follow the advice of the others here and just resign. A lot less wasted time.

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Did you have a relationship with...

by stillin9 in

when you were in the org, did you ever really have a relationship with jehovah?

if so, how did this relationship manifest itself?

was it just a warm fuzzy feeling when you prayed?

Galileo

First off, I love and totally agree with Giordano's answer. I relate to the sentiment at least, if not the specifics. Never been a fisherman myself.

Second, no, I didn't. I always felt like I was missing something in that regard, the same way I felt like I was missing all the "joy" of participating in field service. I always thought that I would get it eventually, probably the same way that some Buddhist monks believe that if they meditate long enough they will eventually be able to levitate. I now realize that having a relationship with an invisible being that does not offer any evidence to support his own existence is no more logical.

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New TV Show--The Cape, NBC Tuesdays

by blondie in

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friends

there is a new/old bad wicked enemy:.

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Galileo

Yeah I don't get it. And The Cape is the worst thing I've seen on TV in a decade. It's just insulting to it's audience and unintentionally laugh out loud funny. It won't make it to spring.

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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 5

by Simon in

my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 4. i swear, i thought it was only a couple of years at most since i wrote part 4 of "my life and how jwd came to be".

i re-read it after someone posted to it and brought it back on active topics and it was kind of prophetic in a way ... well, i had the 5 years part right if nothing else:.

it would be nice to visit the site (or whatever one is around then) in 5 years time to let people know how we're doing and find only a few of the same people still around.

Galileo

I'm so glad this got bumped. This is the first time I've come across it and I just read all five parts. Thank you for what you did Simon. This site was a huge help for me when I was leaving. It was so helpful to know that so many others stood where I stood and felt the way I felt. Thank you.

Question for Elders (current or former) regarding Judicial Committees.

by Galileo in

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the new shepherding the flock book says that if a jw involved in a j.c. threatens legal action or to go to the media, the elders should suspend any action and contact headquarters for instruction.

has anyone here been involved in a j.c. where this occurred?

i am considering taking this route as a last resort and am wondering how effective it is..

Galileo

The new Shepherding the Flock book says that if a JW involved in a J.C. threatens legal action or to go to the media, the Elders should suspend any action and contact headquarters for instruction. Has anyone here been involved in a J.C. where this occurred? I am considering taking this route as a last resort and am wondering how effective it is.

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What are other appropriate words for chick?

by asilentone in

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it was brought to my attention that the word "chick" is demeaning.

from now on, i will not mention that word again.

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Galileo

I really don't think there are a lot of women that are offended by the term "chick". I think it comes down to whether or not she likes you. If she does, she'll probably think it's cute. If she acts offended, you probably never had a shot in the first place.