i've started attending church, recently.
it feels great to be able to worship with vigor and feeling.
still have the occasional trappings of having been a witness and guilt about goung to satan's house.
yes,
our local Catholic church is open all Saturday night for prayer.
I go almost every week and just sit there and think about where Iam, what I have given up, and what I have lost.
It may not sound very spiritual or uplifting, but it really affects me and makes me feel a peace that I never felt at the KH.
some jws truly believe and live their faith.
but many witnesses lived double lives or spoke one way in front of the congregation but privately, they were just the opposite.. i knew an elder and his wife who owned a liquor/convenience store.
they sold tobacco and lottery tickets but claimed that the real owner of the business was the wife's "worldly" father, which was hogwash.. were there any real hypocrites that you knew about?.
wes sterne and jeff renfrow from the crystal lake illinois hall,
there is not enough room on this site to write about the actions of these two people
recently it's come to my attention that the other teens in my congragation are being pressured by their parents to pioneer.
the main problem is that, like me, they're all "apostates".
because of this amusing turn of events, i'm thinking about starting my own apostate pioneering group with them.
I forgot to mention that when he threw up this night, he told me that he was laying on his back, so he could have drowned in his own puke.
Dad saw this and ignored it, his position was more important than his son's health.
I heard this story from two of the brothers who talked about it for months afterward as if it was a badge of honor,, sick.
They would also buy and sell pot in their garage, but that is another long story for another time.
And they were quite vocal about how bad they were, yet if daddy or another member of the hall approached them, they were grown up
WT, JW angels.
recently it's come to my attention that the other teens in my congragation are being pressured by their parents to pioneer.
the main problem is that, like me, they're all "apostates".
because of this amusing turn of events, i'm thinking about starting my own apostate pioneering group with them.
Maybe you and your little friends sit around by yourselves and bitch about having to go to meetings and service, but if you're "actively speaking against WT teachings" outside your circle of "apostate" friends, it'll be like daniel-p said...you won't be doing it for long
AMEN !
It sounds like they are speaking out of both sides of their mouths,
The WT is bad and so are we heh, heh, heh !!
Suddenly an elder appears and they are ramrod straight / loyal to the core witnesses .
I'm very well familiar with this mindset because there was a group of people at my hall back in the 70's (including myself)
who thought the same way.
"Mess up once and your heads will roll, unless one of your parents is someone of importance in the hall", I seem to remember that "Elder daddy"
would bend over backwards to protect his position no matter what.
A true story::: In 1978 this so called friend and PO's son was drinking at age 19 quite a bit. he came home one night after work(he was a mechanic at a local gas station) very sloshed. As he walked into the house PO dad and pioneer mom were having a dinner party with several couples from the hall. He walked in went to his room, shut the door, and threw up . The whole group outside just ignored it and later when everyone had left PO dad went into the room and smacked his kid around telling him to quit drinking.
No help, no "kind and gentle words" just a get yourself straightened out before someone says something" attitude. He kept on drinking ALOT after that and daddy just kept on covering up for him!
He is now divoriced and out of the religion, and his other two brothers are equally if not more messed up with their lives.
Thanks Randy, Kevin, and Tim, from Crystal lake Illinois you all planted a seed in my conscience regarding the JW religion that did not start growing until 25 years later !
http://www.quadcityairshow.com/2009/index.html.
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anyone else?.
I'm going to this one,
i think i got a donation maybe once or twice here in the states.
most of the friends don't ask for a donation.
in south america, more people donated, but i think it's because it was phrased differently, we used to say, "you can give whatever you want for this magazine.
I once had an old farmer give me several turkey eggs for the magazines one Saturday morning.
Ohh ! They're after me lucky charms
when co tony and mary disenti (sp?
) were serving our congregation they came to our house for lunch.
at the time i had two kids, about three and five years old.
when my youngest son was about 6 years old he had an inflatable balloon type hammer, (it was about 3 feet long).
And on mornings when he did not want to get up for either school or service I would get this thing and hit him with it, he really disliked it
but it was very efficient in getting him out of bed.
Well, one time the CO was talking to us after the service meeting and he asked my son if he would be out in service Saturday morning.
Jeff turns to him and said " yea, but I hope that my dad doesn't hit me with the hammer in the morning.
Mortified looks all around until I explained the whole situation, and that I was NOT a child abuser !!!!
the work and wit that's gone into this is incredible.
enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egrzknjkzt4&feature=related.
Could you imagine something like this following the terminator movies ?
Arnold appearing early on a Saturday morning, going up to a door and saying
"come with me if you want to live" when the door gets slammed in his face he would turn to the camera and say
"I'll be back"
Alright,,,,I need to get out more often !
ok so the mate took good notes at the ca and here is the newest on "higher education:.
the usual bashing of motives: those who want great wealth, prestige and seek it in a college educationcollege graduates don't always get jobs in their fieldsdrugs, drinking and sex are "rampant" at collegesthose who want to "snatch us away" are near if we go to college (isa 54)if we seek a college education, we are not spiritual mindedthe most disturbing for me was this:.
those who choose college will not get blessings from jehovahand of course there was the obligatory interview with the college graduate who disdains the education whe received.. .
Drugs drinking and sex are rampant at colleges.
These things were rampant at the congregation I attended (CL Illinois) for over 20 years with the teenagers and certain elders,,,, what kind of logic do these fools follow?
Look at yourself first before you go bashing someone who wants to better themselves !
