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JW wifes

by happy man in

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i have read that some of you here who leave the truth, have still your wife inn the religion, some of you have devorse beaucaurse you left and she still inn.. this must be a very difficult situaition.

myself have a very devoted jw wife,she is all that you here say jw are not, always ther fore the peopel who need help.always have here door open fore evryone .. go a lot in sevice, take care of evrything in the home , try to help evryone.. when i tell here some of this stuff, i see the brightness in here eyes was going down, happiness was perhaps littel bit away, now i must ask you who have been in this situation, can it realy be worth the price, to see your loved ones bee unhappy, and even perhaps lost ther hope and happiness..

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Hi Jim,

I have previously said elsewhere here that I studied (in great depth) for six years before deciding that there was no way in which I could ever believe in the fundamental doctrines. Before I got to that stage, I did become an Unbaptised Publisher but stepped down before getting baptised.

I appreciate what you say about how my not being baptised affects the situation with my wifes beliefs although getting half way there and turning back must have had some effect.

My wife and I have a pretty good understanding of the situation; I help her in every way with getting to meetings etc. and she never places me in positions where I am uncomfortable with things. We have known each other for over fourty- five years and I feel that if "the truth" provides her with something that she needs that I cant provide, then why should I destroy her illusions? What good would it do me or her to burst the bubble? If I thought it was doing her serious harm in any way then I might think differently.

BTW, I enjoy your posts and follow you quite a bit. I hope things work out with you and your wife someday it seems that all is not lost there.

Regards

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Please participate in my survey

by Zechariah in

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i have received inquiries about how i was trained by spirit as a psychologist.

i was led to many sources of enlightenment.

books routinely was i led to that it was important i read.

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Resurrection Shuffle

by PopeOfEruke in

one of jw "beliefs" that was and still is most confusing to me is the condition of married persons after the resurrection.

in particular, if one marriage partner dies before the big a and then gets resurrected.. its surprising how many jw's hold sacred their own private interpretation on this.. generally i found that if the marriage had been a happy one, a lot of jw's believe if the surviving marriage partner does not remarry, then they will end up back with their dead-but-back-again married partner after the resurrection.

in a normal sexual marriage relationship.. if the survivng partner does remarry however, the the old chestnut gets rolled out about people in the resurrection "will neither get married or be given in marriage.

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Apart from woman problems there are other things that concern me about the "new system"

When you have been around for sixty odd years there are always a couple of people that you dont want to bump into again because it could be embarrassing for one reason or another. A thousand years is a long time to have to keep a low profile!

Along the same lines, the wife wants to meet all the oldies like Noah, King David, Soloman etc and believes that the thousand years will give her the time to do it. She's having cards printed just in case. Have to give her her due though, she's met most of the Royal Family in this system so she's had a bit of practice.

See you then

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(edited by link to try and get punctuation back)

Edited by - link on 23 October 2002 14:27:51

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JW wifes

by happy man in

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friends

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i have read that some of you here who leave the truth, have still your wife inn the religion, some of you have devorse beaucaurse you left and she still inn.. this must be a very difficult situaition.

myself have a very devoted jw wife,she is all that you here say jw are not, always ther fore the peopel who need help.always have here door open fore evryone .. go a lot in sevice, take care of evrything in the home , try to help evryone.. when i tell here some of this stuff, i see the brightness in here eyes was going down, happiness was perhaps littel bit away, now i must ask you who have been in this situation, can it realy be worth the price, to see your loved ones bee unhappy, and even perhaps lost ther hope and happiness..

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Hello Happy Man,

Im in the same position. My wife and I are in our sixties and we are still very much in love. I would never want "to see the brightness in her eyes go down" so I never say anything that might cause that to happen.

Even other JWs cant understand how we can have such a happy marriage but I think that we are lucky because although she is very strong in "the truth" (25 years) she does not allow it to affect our relationship. How she does that I dont know, but it works.

She realises that I have researched her religion and cannot accept some parts of it relating to the "organisation". She also believes that we wont be separated at Armageddon because of my own belief in God.

I think that we must have the best mixed marriage going!

All the best to you and Mrs Man.

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NWT IS "THE BEST AVAILABLE" Translation

by plmkrzy in

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Plmcrzy,

Sorry for the delay in getting back. It seems to have righted itself now - perhaps it was my server! The scroll bars were way off the screen so that I could not pick up the text.

BTW thanks for the thread it is something that interests me.

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NWT IS "THE BEST AVAILABLE" Translation

by plmkrzy in

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bible

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HELP!

I can't get sufficient of this post onto my screen at any one time in order to read it.

It looks interesting.

What am I doing wrong?

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Comparison of Mormonism and JWism

by alex in

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i'm thinking that the mind-control games are very very very very much the same between mormonism and jwism.

i've lurked here for a while and thought i'd introduce myself.

my name is alex and i'm an unbelieving mormon who lives in utah.

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Hi Susan,

Thanks for responding. I'm sorry that so many have asked you these same questions. I think that this just shows how unusual your actions are. I don't think that it shows paranoia on anybodys part.

You said:

Yes, you have a hard row to hoe since you've made up your own mind about the Church, want to leave, but have all those good LDS relatives you don't want to alienate yourself from, including your wife. Tough decisions are ahead of you. While we don't shun as the JWs do, there is no doubt how hurt your family will be if you pursue your present course.

I just wonder how many ex JWs have heard words to this effect and how many others here see this as an attempt to set up a guilt trip for someone in a very vulnerable position.

If you think that alienating your wife and upsetting your family don't qualify, I'd hate to really upset you!

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Comparison of Mormonism and JWism

by alex in

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i'm thinking that the mind-control games are very very very very much the same between mormonism and jwism.

i've lurked here for a while and thought i'd introduce myself.

my name is alex and i'm an unbelieving mormon who lives in utah.

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Susan,

Perhaps I am not the only one wondering what a fully fledged Mormon is doing with 111 posts on a discussion board used mainly by apostate Jehovahs Witnesses. Are you hoping to get leads for converts or are you just lurking on behalf of others?

I thought that JWs were bad enough but you have dished out enough emotional blackmail to Alex to give him a lifetimes guilt complex.

In that respect at least, you Mormons are not a lot different to the JWs are you?.

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The Judges Funeral

by link in

i read somewhere that judge rutherfords funeral was delayed by court cases.

apparently he wanted to be buried at "beth sarim" at sunrise or something.. if this is not just some mythical story, can anybody provide links to further information on this topic?

i have tried "search" but cant find anything and am quite curious about it.. thanks.

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Thanks once again Blondie.

This last one you mention is the one that I was looking for.

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The Judges Funeral

by link in

i read somewhere that judge rutherfords funeral was delayed by court cases.

apparently he wanted to be buried at "beth sarim" at sunrise or something.. if this is not just some mythical story, can anybody provide links to further information on this topic?

i have tried "search" but cant find anything and am quite curious about it.. thanks.

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Many thank for the links Blondie.

Plenty of good info there about Beth-Sarim but nothing about "The Judge" wanting to be buried at sunrise or why this was important. Perhaps this part was just a mythical story?

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