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THEY'VE DONE IT!!!! The WBTS set a new date!

by dmouse in

the latest watchtower, dec 15th 2003, is an out and out attack on the rank and file for dropping into a drowsy state spiritually.

ok, so armageddon didn't come before the generation of 1914 grew old and died.

but does that mean that the big a isn't near?

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Nathan,

Can I just say how it was explained to me.

At one time the 144,000 were all there waiting for Armageddon. As the time for this drew closer some of these anointed had second thoughts and dropped out leaving less than the required total.

Out of the 8000 + currently available candidates, sufficient have been selected to make up the number. However these newbies have to prove themselves before they can be "sealed" and this is the reason we are waiting.

It makes no sense whatsoever to me but it makes them feel good to explain it all to me.

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THEY'VE DONE IT!!!! The WBTS set a new date!

by dmouse in

the latest watchtower, dec 15th 2003, is an out and out attack on the rank and file for dropping into a drowsy state spiritually.

ok, so armageddon didn't come before the generation of 1914 grew old and died.

but does that mean that the big a isn't near?

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dmouse,

When I brought that up they said the article was only drawing attention to parallels between Naoh’s time and our day and it wasn’t trying to indicate anything other than that. I have never yet met anyone that has won an argument with a JW. They have an answer for everything even if it makes no logical sense.

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THEY'VE DONE IT!!!! The WBTS set a new date!

by dmouse in

the latest watchtower, dec 15th 2003, is an out and out attack on the rank and file for dropping into a drowsy state spiritually.

ok, so armageddon didn't come before the generation of 1914 grew old and died.

but does that mean that the big a isn't near?

link

I have consulted our local version of "Scholar" who advises me as follows.

Genesis 6:3 is telling us two things, a) that as from the year 2490 b.c. the life expectancy of man will be reduced to 120 years and b) the flood would occur in 2610 b.c. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Armageddon.

Armageddon is just waiting the "final sealing" of the last of the 144,000 because some of the first team dropped out due to apostasy. Since nobody knows how long this process will take it is impossible to put a time scale or date on it.

This is the current local thinking as provided to me yesterday.

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Some light on "new light" please

by link in

is it possible for anyone to give me a clearer understanding of the"new light" doctrine?.

the way i currently understand it from reading the bible is that as time passes and events .

unfold the meaning of certain information given in the scriptures will become clearer.. i do not see anywhere where it indicates that new light is a method of replacing one .

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Many thanks for the responses,

I did need to look again at the references and this pointed me in the right direction.

Thanks

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Some light on "new light" please

by link in

is it possible for anyone to give me a clearer understanding of the"new light" doctrine?.

the way i currently understand it from reading the bible is that as time passes and events .

unfold the meaning of certain information given in the scriptures will become clearer.. i do not see anywhere where it indicates that new light is a method of replacing one .

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Is it possible for anyone to give me a clearer understanding of the"new light" doctrine?

The way I currently understand it from reading the Bible is that as time passes and events
unfold the meaning of certain information given in the Scriptures will become clearer.
I do not see anywhere where it indicates that new light is a method of replacing one
understanding with a completely new and different one. It appears to be a method of adding
to existing knowledge, not a way of replacing that knowledge with something completely
different.

The WTS seem to have a completely different understanding of the principle and they use the
new light doctrine to make 180 and sometimes 360 degree turns in their teaching. Is there
something in the Bible to back up their understanding that I have missed. There in fact
does not appear to be anything in the Bible to indicate that new light even applies to doctrinal
matters, it appears to relate only to the explanations that it gives redarding certain matters.

I would appreciate the opinions of those interested in such matters.

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to decide ones faith!

by zelevis in

i see post after post on what u members of this site call bad picture, how can u show the end of this world in a good way?

anyone answer me that?

as a jw i believe and its my choice to do so based on bible teachings.

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Thanks for that NICK. It just about sums up the collective abilitiy of every Witness I ever knew.

Not surprised you posted it under "Scandals"

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What other JW sites do you visit, where do you find good info ???

by run dont walk in

jw
friends

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i haven't got time to go through the 1,000,000 hits you get when you punch in jehovah on the google search.. so are there other jw sites or xjw sites you like and find helpful ???.

what are they and where are they ???.

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No offence rdw. Its just that I saw a number of posts on a recent thread where the links to other JW type sites had been deleted by the moderators.Thats why I thought it was a "No No"

Just trying to be helpful.

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What other JW sites do you visit, where do you find good info ???

by run dont walk in

jw
friends

.

i haven't got time to go through the 1,000,000 hits you get when you punch in jehovah on the google search.. so are there other jw sites or xjw sites you like and find helpful ???.

what are they and where are they ???.

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rdw,

This might be a "No No".

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This is why I'm Disappointed....

by Nickey in

jw
friends

it's a public board.

i was still a jw.

i came here looking for answers to my questions and doubts.

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Nickey,

I have to agree with you. I have sent a couple of people with doubts to this board and they shot straight back to the Hall and as far as I know are still there.

The thing is that they were not yet at a point where they could seperate the rubbish from the "real" stuff, it was too soon for them to be here. Timing is the important thing, if you get that right some of the information on this board can be of real practical help.

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Refuting the whole WT Org in one question...

by Confucious in

i'm testing my hypothosis here.... the question is this.... "does the wt org.

get special revelations from god today.".

if they answer "yes," then they are going against the bible which says that all scripture is complete.. if the say "no," then we can say, "then why do you say we should follow you.".

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Eduardo,

You said:

Like the apostles and, in fact, others thoughout the bible record who had to adjust their thinking upon receiving new teaching from God, JWs claim only to have an inside track today on receiving that continued teaching and so from time to time do make adjustments to their theology (belief system

I assume that by "new teaching" you mean revised thinking or understanding, as this is what the topic is about.

For the uneducated, like myself, can you please give examples from the Bible where God gave revised teaching or thinking to the apostles and others throughout the Bible?

Thank you

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