i thought long and hard before making this thread, that many will not agree with it but i think there needs to be balance and people to realise there are alternate viewpoints out there on many of these subjects, the ones that are most spoke about on this forum.
i was recently sent a full message containing mary's book and these links give the rebuttal to many of her points.
those that are still open-minded enough feel free to look over them even if in the end you still don't agree at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.
at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.
LMFAO!
What is wrong with you? Do you not realize that 95% of us at one time were, or still are, JWs? Do you really think we haven't heard the JW side of the story a thousand times over before? 3 times a week at meetings + personal study, that shit is permanently engrained. We WANT to forget it, but we can't. In conclusion:
GO AWAY.
Thanks
A Concerned X-Dub
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now featuring a countdown clock for your convenience.. remember, remember, 12:01 am november 5 is london time of course.. that means north america will see this the evening of november 4th ... have fun!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es1kh-bkmwc.
Maybe you need to clear your cookies & internet cache Matt.
wednesday - november 5, 2008mind control?its hard to believe, but in america alone, there may be as many as 5,000 religious groups preying upon the weak and vulnerable, and all in the name of god.
dr. phils guests have warnings for you and your children.
seeta says when her 18-year-old daughter joined a religious group called 1 mind ministries, she left home with her 7-month-old son and never returned.
show me that the atheist world is better?
This question is no more to the point than whether or not a drunk man is happier than a sober one.
we were talking about places we would like to visit one day and i mentioned cape town.
sometimes, all the news we get or the pictures we see of another country, are slanted toward what is bad and we don't get to see what a country is really about.
i was wondering how many on here are from or have been to cape town and what it's really like?
Google "rock hyrax" and see if that's it.
Believe it or not they are related to elephants.
so some nice jw ladies stopped by and left the "truth" pamphlet.
i told then that i wasn't a big fan of the bible since it was very divisive.
as an example i told them that my folks became jw's and it devestated our family.
*** w884/15p.28pars.11-15DisciplineThatCanYieldPeaceableFruit***
14 The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum, in line with the divine principle: "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . . . not even eating with such a man."—1 Corinthians 5:11.
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Understandably, this may be difficult because of emotions and family ties, such as grandparents’ love for their grandchildren. Yet, this is a test of loyalty to God, as stated by the sister quoted on page 26. Anyone who is feeling the sadness and pain that the disfellowshipped relative has thus caused may find comfort and be encouraged by the example set by some of Korah’s relatives.—Psalm 84:10-12.
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now featuring a countdown clock for your convenience.. remember, remember, 12:01 am november 5 is london time of course.. that means north america will see this the evening of november 4th ... have fun!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es1kh-bkmwc.
Hahah, try a mouseover on the two chairs in the Kingdumb Hell.
i thought after recently reading the bible i would put up for disussion some recent scriptures up which for me show that jesus never viewed himself as god and anyone listening would also see it this way too.. first mark 10 :17-20.
17as jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him.
"good teacher," he asked, "what must i do to inherit eternal life?
Ah, grown men calling each other idiots and fools over a 2000-year-old ghost story.
I love it!
world hopes for a 'less arrogant america'william j. kole and matt moore, associated press writers william j. kole and matt moore, associated press writers 2 hrs 8 mins ago</form> ap a basketball scoreboard shows the date of tuesday's election at the site of an obama-biden rally at longview berlin the world was riveted by the election drama unfolding tuesday in the united states, inspired by barack obama or simply relieved that whoever wins the bush administration was coming to an end.. from berlin's brandenburg gate to the small town of obama, japan, the globe geared up to celebrate a fresh start for america.. in germany, where more than 200,000 flocked to see obama this summer as he moved to burnish his foreign policy credentials during a trip to the middle east and europe, the election dominated television ticker crawls, newspaper headlines and web sites.. hundreds of thousands prepared to party through the night to watch the outcome of an election having an impact far beyond america's shores.
among the more irreverent festivities planned in paris: a "goodbye george" party to bid farewell to bush.. "like many french people, i would like obama to win because it would really be a sign of change," said vanessa doubine, shopping tuesday on the champs-elysees.
"i deeply hope for america's image that it will be obama.".
A world without American leadership is, for most Europeans, a world of chaos."
Oh god.
john 18:36 .
"jesus answered, my kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that i should not be delivered to the jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence".
if jesus' kingdom is not of this world then christians with an earthly hope would obviously not be part of jesus' heavenly kingdom.. could this perhaps be a new perspective on the issue of voting or remaining separate from this world.. think about it.. jw's teach there are two classes of christians - those with an earthly hope and those with a heavenly hope.. .
If Jesus' kingdom is "no part of this world", then it is completely removed from earthly affairs. Therefore, whether or not you vote for a certain political party on earth has no bearing on your support for Jesus' kingdom, becuase they belong in two completely seperate spheres of existence.
three escaped prisoners are lost in the blazing hot desert.. one of them is english, another one is german and finally the last one is polish.. after a couple of days wandering aimlessly and almost giving up all hope of being found,.
up walks a tall man with olive complexion dressed in bright white linen.. looking over the three prisoners he says in a highly resonating voice,.
"my master will allow you one item or thing that you ask for before i show you the path you are to take out of this place.".
Hey, I'm polish!
Good stuff.
