Posts by johnnyc

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Call to legal department Jan 6, 2012

by koolaid-man in

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troubled former witness calls legal department at the watchtower organization.............. dale beckman says, can the "society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?

" in my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin.

" they are told not to even greet me.

johnnyc

yeah, this is too bad.

Dale, please take a breath and try to relax. Its obvious you are hurt and not sure what you should do, but you need to balance that out with looking outside anything having to do with the ORG - bad or good. Sometimes trying to focus all the energy back AT the ORG can be as unrewarding as when your energy went INTO the ORG. The GB and ORG are protected by a host of laws in the US that protect them. I can tell you are on the verg of snapping, but you need to get some friendships going with people that have nothing to do with being a JW. Before attacking anything you need to get yourself centered.

Take care.

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Booklet - Preparing for Child Custody Cases

by johnnyc in

everyone has been a big help in pointing me in the right direction on resources - i hope i can ask for another thing.. i am looking for the actual "scan" or "pdf" of the booklet "preparing for child custody cases".

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again, thanks in advance..

johnnyc

Everyone has been a big help in pointing me in the right direction on resources - i hope I can ask for another thing.

I am looking for the actual "scan" or "pdf" of the booklet "Preparing for Child Custody Cases".

Again, thanks in advance.

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Generation - one more time

by johnnyc in

sorry guys.

i know i have brought this up before (a couple years ago), but my mother and i were talking (she is a ultra-jw) about the wt's generation, and she told me that the wt has never come out and said they took back the generation "timeframe" from 1914. she said they only changed who it was referring to - but nothing has changed on the fact within a generation from 1914 the end has to come.

well, i went back to the 1995 article, and really didnt see where the timeframe was explicitly changed.

johnnyc

Sorry guys. I know I have brought this up before (a couple years ago), but my mother and I were talking (she is a ultra-jw) about the WT's generation, and she told me that the WT has never come out and said they took back the generation "timeframe" from 1914. She said they only changed who it was referring to - but nothing has changed on the fact within a generation from 1914 THE END has to come. Well, I went back to the 1995 article, and really didnt see where the timeframe was explicitly changed.

I am going to go back to her once I have my "p"'s and "q"'s checked - since it is not often she will talk with me about these things (like once a year). Can you guys help reference me to current article(s) that specifically deal with the fact they have taken back their previous claim about the end coming within the generation that started in 1914. I must admit I am not keeping up on my watchtower reading (lol) and hope you guys can direct me.

Thanks in advance.

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New Elder Book

by johnnyc in

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Does anyone know how to get the new elder book??? It has to be on the net already - right?

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New Elder Book

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"Peace and Security"

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What Was Meant By 'Abstain From Blood'?

by headisspinning in

i have always been very hardcore about my aversion to blood and have never even considered the possibility that this was merely a dietary restriction.

i always bought into the analogy of a doctor telling a patient to abstain from alcohol... it wouldn't matter whether this individual drank the alcohol or took it intravenously... it would all be in direct contradiction to the doctor's orders to 'abstain' from alcohol.. or the other analogy is to an apple pie... if you weren't to eat the pie, it would not be okay to separate it out into the main parts (or 'components)... ie.

the flour, the apples, the sugar or the cinnamon... if they were taken from that pie, you were eating the pie.. so maybe you can see where the questions popped up for me.

johnnyc

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What are the people at Bethel like? What's the GB like?

by doubtful in

i can't even count the number of times i've heard people say how incredibly humble and down-to-earth and caring the exectuives at bethel are.

i've had one first person encounter with a gb member..i forget his name although i would be able to identify him in a picture.

he did seem genuinely nice.

johnnyc

"cult classic": What was very unkind and unloving? That they dismissed someone who claimed to be gay at a place where there is virutally 90% men? I guess Paul is unloving for what he said about gay men. Why would a practicing gay man WANT to be associated with the WT anyway??? That is like a Jew wanting to join the Nazi Party.

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Watchtower Attorney and new contract for deceased?

by Dogpatch in

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i'm passing on a question and wanted input on it please:.

recently an xjws mother passed away, when it came to settling the estate.

a watchtower attorney produced a form that she had filled out and.

johnnyc

I am a law student getting my JD.

This sort of contract could be easily fought in probate if it says anything deemed a fallacy.. I also doubt the WT would want this sort of publicity on the subject matter, so would probably not fight too hard on a motion to set aside the agreement.

To have a contract or agreement that requires one party to fulfill their part of the agreement outside a reasonable scope of enforcement - due to statue of limitation issues etc - is more than problematic. Judges do not go for these sorts of agreements in probate hearings (or any hearing). You might as well name the Holy Spirit as a third party beneficiary. Those sorts of documents do not hold weight when challenged.

My grandmother just gave $150k to the WT - I was not happy.

JP

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Russia - Moscow Rulling

by johnnyc in

does anyone know where i can find the legal documents for the recent ruling the moscow city court had against jehovah's witnesses (and then upheld by the supreme court)?

if anyone knows where one could get that material, i would sure appreciate it.. thanks,.

johnny.

johnnyc

Does anyone know where I can find the legal documents for the recent ruling the Moscow City Court had against Jehovah's Witnesses (and then upheld by the Supreme Court)? If anyone knows where one could get that material, I would sure appreciate it.

Thanks,

Johnny