minimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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You cannot prove to anyone that Jehovah is God. Faith is born in ourselves and by our own undestanding letting the bible and holy spirit guide us towards the truth of Jehovah's ways. Then gathering with others that are in agreement with us as a body in unity with Jesus through whom we reach Jehovah.
How many one here can say they have enough faith in God on which to build a trust in a congregation with others together again?
Reniaa
i'm passing this along from someone else on another discussion board.
the claim of any substantive change in the policy on pedophiles is news to me.
can anybody verify or falsify this claim?.
I could be wrong, is it that the conviction itself works as enough to get the df? I know this happenned in the one pedophile witness case I had knowledge of in 25 years I was a witness originally. the Only witness was the daughter but he got a prison sentence through the police that were informed and got df'd after conviction.
Reniaa
i'm passing this along from someone else on another discussion board.
the claim of any substantive change in the policy on pedophiles is news to me.
can anybody verify or falsify this claim?.
forensic evidence that leads to a conviction is allowed as the second witness from what I know.
Reniaa
minimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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They follow Almighty God Jehovah and try to do his will through the grace of his son Jesus Christ.
The first step in having the true faith is getting the God right. Christendom haven't even got close on the first step even.
Reniaa
this will be studied in two weeks time but it's such a special .
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Acts 16:4
As they traveled from town to town, they delivered the decisions reached by the apostles and elders in Jerusalem for the people to obey.
Acts 15:4
When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.
28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues [a] ? Do all interpret?
Reniaa
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
No nelly
They are simply doing the same as Paul did when he appealed to Rome the equivalent of the UN of his day biblically. To help to do the preaching work and be recognised so people can be practising Jehovah's witnesses freely.
We have absolutely no political aspirations like mormons or catholics and to the point of not voting or going into wars. We only ask that we can preach the bible God's message and our people can be witnesses in every country and will deal with Authorities as Paul himself did to this end.
If the witnesses are guilty here then Paul was also guilty for appealing to Rome.
The biblical precedent is there. We are told to submit and deal with authorities till Jesus's return but not see them as the answer which only comes from Jehovah through his son Jesus.
Reniaa
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
Hi password
OSCE is a governent run org in the hands of the UN which itself is made up of the worlds governments, dealing with governmental issues and situations to keep connection and agreements between them on human rights and security issues. It has authority and power by virtue of being part of governments. It is completely seen to be an authority in its functions IMO.
Reniaa
no one comes to the father except through me.
if you had known me, you would have known my father also.
(see hebrews 1:10; colossians 1:16-17; john 1:3).
Its a bit of a big boy of a post to reply too, lots of trinitarian points, rhetoric and statements, here's one.... Jesus is 100% man and !00% God on earth at the same time, this is an oxymoron with no biblical agreement. In another place you'll get trinitarians saying the word 'emptied' himself what did he empty then to still be able to remain 100% God?
Also a lavish mix of being divine/having God-like or God-given qualities but trying to make this an identity of being the One true god YHWH/Jehovah.
Reniaa
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
thank you nelly
Your info shows clearly this is an authority issue and one they would have to deal with on human rights alone or when they are under ban or not classed as a religion (france atm) or persuing their rights as a religion to preach the massage of the bible (some russian states atm).
Reniaa
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
looks like it is dealing with authority issues to me and thats just basic search.
The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe is the primary instrument for early warning, conflict prevention, crisis management, ...
Reniaa
