Posts by reniaa

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New World Translation, is it the best bible translation?

by littlebuddy in

my jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.

is this true and is it the best?

are there scholars who disagree?.

reniaa

Hi narkissos

I agree with a lot of what you say, have you watch the movie planet of the apes they have some ancient mechanical items from the extinct human race and tell him they know exactly what they were for from scientific understanding but were completely wrong, it can be like that. I find it's also like looking through a magnifying glass, were to closely can blur just as too distant is not detailed enough, you have to have your focus right.

I go into religion knowing I am already a One God believer in YHWH/Jehovah and his ACTUAL son Jesus before I start so I am not being effected by doctrine or translation. After that we have to evaluate and judge for ourselves using the bible and pray for holy spirit but there is a danger of taking idea's of men as holy spirit guidance, which I fully appreciate you could say is what the witnesses do but I find this is true of any religion even a personal one because am I not human? If I think something is a certain way then I am taking a decision from a human/me too?

I had a charassmatic friend whose faith is in the gifts of holy spirit and they believe the tongues, prophecies, healings etc and I asked them if they had seen a healing and they said no but they had faith that these healing happened without having to see them they believed from what the people around them had said happenned so believing the words of men is holy spirit. I think this is why I have chosen the JW's because they do not claim signs and miracles they try do it straight from biblical source WHICH I can check. So if they say 'no fornication'! I can check it biblically if they say we need overseers/leaders of men, I can check it biblically, if they say there is an anointed 144,000 class this I can also check. which I do using many translations as I can.

Reniaa

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I was a False Prophet

by IWillBeDubbedNoMore in

jw
friends

i was a false prophet.

i would spend many a waking hour proclaiming to others that i had special knowledge that i was willing to share so that they could survive the impeding doom that was shortly coming upon mankind.

i proclaimed to the world, or at least anyone i came in contact with, that the world would end within a generations time from 1914. i spoke this vile falsehood for years without any remorse.. i falsely spoke telling them that i was participating in a special separating work being done all over the world.

reniaa

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible.

Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

To qualify biblically to be a false prophet in these times you have to perform false signs and miracles and call yourself christ.

Reniaa

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Tell a minister why the Bible alone is not enough to reach jw

by carla in

please tell a minister why the bible alone is not enough to reach a jw.

i feel the language, doctrines, translation, etc..etc... all of it must be known as well as the bible.

please, serious answers only, thank you..

reniaa

hi jon dough

You know the bible is the only way to reach a true JW it's what convinced us in the first place. there are some beautiful scriptures in the bible.

Psalm 110:1

1 YHWH says to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet."

Micah 5:4

4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
in the strength of YHWH,
in the majesty of the name of YHWH his God.
And they will live securely, for then his greatness
will reach to the ends of the earth.

Reniaa

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Tell a minister why the Bible alone is not enough to reach jw

by carla in

please tell a minister why the bible alone is not enough to reach a jw.

i feel the language, doctrines, translation, etc..etc... all of it must be known as well as the bible.

please, serious answers only, thank you..

reniaa

Did I hijack it? or am I just sick of people measuring witnesses by rules and standards they are unwilling to apply to anyone else?

Do witnesses follow the bible? yes and any person calling themselves a christian would answer this in the affirmative.

So what makes one christian faith right and another wrong? The only standards we have is the bible and holy spirit and I have found the Jws to be the most biblically honest as well as holy spirit blessed doctrinely. But I freely admit others may feel differently because they actually do or alternatively want to make themselves feel differently because of personal issues with Jws rather than anything they have against what we believe.

Reniaa

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Joshua asked God to let the Sun stand still.....and he did it? How? Why?

by Witness 007 in

joshua wasn't done butchering people, "not enough time in the day" to chop up "god's enemies" so he says: "yeah hi jehovah, just wondering if you could make the sun stand still for me so i can continue the slaughter...thanks.

" no problem!

god stops the earths rotation {which should cause it to drift from the sun or crash into the moon} and holds it for joshua.

reniaa

hi chris

Yes I do, one thing I know is if people from another century could see us using mobile phones or TV they would be thinking we were miracle workers. God did miracles that would still seem so to us and so I have to assume that God works on a greater plain of knowledge that we are not on, like we would seem to those from another century. Maybe it was as simple as just making the sun appear to stand still for those that needed it.

Reniaa

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God confused peoples language so they couldn't build Babel....a load of crap!

by Witness 007 in

yeah well, back in the day a group of people built a tower to heaven, so god confused their languages so they would not build a "mega city" and become powerful.. or if you want to used half a brain....languages evolved over time as a form of comunication between different tribes.

many languages are related, slavic or asian languages share the same or simular words.

oh and the cherry on top is adam and eve spoke yiddish.....ooie mashugana!

reniaa

hi gub

thankyou for the info GB, I think I also read that they were found to have started at similar times.

Reniaa

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Apostle Paul as Roman Soldier

by hamsterbait in

it was brought up in another thread that paul got his roman citizenship by serving as a soldier for at least 20 years.

this was the only way a non-italian non-roman born could do it.. i remember an illustration - in one of the big books, like "things in which it is impossible for god to lie" or "life everlasting" where saul of tarsus is pictured holding the robes of those who are stoning christians to death.. he is dressed as a roman soldier with a metal breast plate.

anybody have a scan of this?.

reniaa

hi narkissos

You are right there are many ways to assess the same data, we all have our own viewpoint. I personally have a simpathy for Paul he must have lived with the thought that but for Jesus's intervention he may have stayed the bad way he was. He certainly appears to me as a man constantly trying to wipe out past sins, it makes him very human and approachable.

Reniaa

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Joshua asked God to let the Sun stand still.....and he did it? How? Why?

by Witness 007 in

joshua wasn't done butchering people, "not enough time in the day" to chop up "god's enemies" so he says: "yeah hi jehovah, just wondering if you could make the sun stand still for me so i can continue the slaughter...thanks.

" no problem!

god stops the earths rotation {which should cause it to drift from the sun or crash into the moon} and holds it for joshua.

reniaa

he maybe could have just stopped time! who knows? As God is the maker of the physical laws we live by anything is possible.

Reniaa

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Tell a minister why the Bible alone is not enough to reach jw

by carla in

please tell a minister why the bible alone is not enough to reach a jw.

i feel the language, doctrines, translation, etc..etc... all of it must be known as well as the bible.

please, serious answers only, thank you..

reniaa

Hi isaac

you should take your own advice but please can you stop using "swine" like a swear word towards me I have let it pass a few times now but it's getting a bit nasty, you are using it on every thread I post on.

hmmm edited away as I speak thank you for that.

Reniaa

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Joshua asked God to let the Sun stand still.....and he did it? How? Why?

by Witness 007 in

joshua wasn't done butchering people, "not enough time in the day" to chop up "god's enemies" so he says: "yeah hi jehovah, just wondering if you could make the sun stand still for me so i can continue the slaughter...thanks.

" no problem!

god stops the earths rotation {which should cause it to drift from the sun or crash into the moon} and holds it for joshua.

reniaa

It's a miracle that you either believe or don't!

Matthew 19:26
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

Are we going to discuss the ten plagues of egypt next?

Reniaa