Look man! The U.S. government can also make the entire nation succumb to their desires if complete chaos errupted by using signals thru all the Cell Towers.
Go smoke another one.
Quirky 1
at least posting without using your real name .
news article http://bigheaddc.com/2008/03/10/lawmaker-wants-to-criminalize-anonymous-internet-posts.
Look man! The U.S. government can also make the entire nation succumb to their desires if complete chaos errupted by using signals thru all the Cell Towers.
Go smoke another one.
Quirky 1
i have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.
my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.
she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.
Hey, Onthewayout, I liked the info you posted regarding the whole prostitution thing. It really makes one wonder. And to reply to another, I do not think my wife would marry me today. We have been together for 24 years, but only married for 5, due to the Jdubs influence. Our kid's didn't even know we weren't married all this time. We just lived together because she was drawing a military pension and didn't wanna give it up. About $15K/yr, tax free. What F'n idiots we were. What da hell were we thinkin'!
On the other hand I don't know if I would marry her again either. She has always been a control freak. When we first met I was much the party-er and pot head and smoked Camel's. After a year she tamed the partying and within a couple of years put an end to the maryjane, then the puffs. I then took up an occasional cigar, the good ones! She didn't like that either but let me indulge anyway.
She is the one who started this whole JW thing anyway. Her study lead to her parents and so on. Then 5 years later I was "brainwashed".
What a deal!
Quirky 1
hey, im not sure if any of u remember the other time i said that i liked this jw girl, but im gonna jump that.
well, she's invited me to her gathering on the 22nd.
which is like according to them, jesus's b'day.
I'm tellin' ya' man, don't go. I think she thinks she has a potential JW candidate! And that's what they want to hear. Since you are not a JW she is using you for Field Service time that they have to report every month.
You might want to just come out and be candid and ask her where you two are at in this scheme of things.
Becomming a JW was my demise and maybe the demise of my family.
Think about it and "Do Your Research" first!
Quirky 1
i have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.
my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.
she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.
I do not want to divorce if I can keep from it. I would love for her to come to her senses about the WTS, but like everybody else there, she is blinded. As for the kid's are concerned they are young adults preparing for life W/O the WTS and are moving on. Another strike against Mom. She has the feeling she has lost everything and gained nothing. Tonight she came home and my son was here and he had both ears pierced, a tongue ring, and sporting a new Tat, my daughter done the same thing. Wow, her head really fell and she would barely talk. I too don't like the words of "just exist". It seems pointless to just come home and perorm a wifely duty or responsibility. Before the WTS we had loads of fun with family and freinds, especially during the holidays. I wish those days were back but hind sight is 20/20.
Quirky 1
hey, im not sure if any of u remember the other time i said that i liked this jw girl, but im gonna jump that.
well, she's invited me to her gathering on the 22nd.
which is like according to them, jesus's b'day.
If it were me, I would not attend. This is to be the Memorial of Jesus' death and there will be lot of people there that will recognoze U R new and they will just be "dying" to get to know you. They will use all their tactics.
This weekend there is an assembly for the local KH. This will be the first one I have ever missed. The wife is goin tho. I am not going to give them a chance to try to pursuade me to repent and return.
Screw Dat'!
Quirky 1
wow, i'm not crazy!!!
i thought it was just my jw father that was unloving, i thought i was a bad person.
thank you all so much for posting here.
I too am very happy to have found this site. It helps me to realize that I am not the "only one" and enables me to voice and express certain feelings about the same issues and in the end learn to cope.
Quirky 1
i like a woman who is a jw and im not; i know she has the same feelings for me as i do for her.
i would say im spiritual but not religious i would not take the bible word as literal truth like jw do.
do we have any chance of a relationship together?
Do not even get involved.
Quirky 1
i have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.
my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.
she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.
I have sat down with my wife and explained to her that I still love her and that I would not try to persuade her from her beliefs. We have always been the couple that does everything together and she seems to think that my decision to leave the WTS will have a drastic impact on our lives. And the only way it will is if she lets it. But, if it doesn't seem to work I have already made peace with it. I do not want her to be unhappy in the least and will voluntarily let her go.
i have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.
my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.
she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.
Yes, I have been in the middle of some turmoil lately. And it is mostly about the JW's and their rules and stipulations. Our marriage has been rocky for some time. I have started some old habits that I won't describe. But, I do miss my family, my side which aren't JW's, which I haven't seen much in the last 7 years since joining. I do appreciate all the support and advise fom each individual on this forum. I can tell that I am not the only one. My kids are behind me 100%. They and I should all be DF. We all started smoking and all sorts of other BS that we, or I gave up years ago but the children just picked up. ( Their Mom doesn't know). I started having a problem with the doctrine just soon after I made MS. Then I started seeing holes in the religion. I tried to stick in their but my conscience bothered me. I then started to inquire about additional info about the JW's (That I should have done prior to joining) and found much moe than I barganed for. "Crisi of Conscience" by Raymon Franz was killer. That pretty much nipped it in the bud for me. I "do" love my wife but it may be just hypothethically, It could be just an emotional aroma. I have stated that I would grant her a divorce (After a big blow out) and she left vowing never to return, but returned several hours later. Her comment is that she would "Just Exist" and stay married.(Because Jehovah hates a Divorcing) Since then it has been an emotionmal roller coaster with her. I stated at our first conversation about this subjectm, "How do we stand in this schene of things"? Knowing we are both headed in separate directions. Have yet to have a reply.
Quirky 1
i have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.
my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.
she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.
I have recently left the WTS and almost have my DA letter ready to send. My wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand. She is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still JW's and refuses to leave the WTS, she still beleives it. After reading "Crisis of Conscience" and the little alarms going off in my head prior to this I am unable to continue. My children understand and do not want it anymore either. But, I am sure this will put a tremendous strain on our relationship. Waddya do?