I don't reply often, so maybe this will be profound...LOL! My wife (16 yr JW) does good works when she's not in FS...helping an older woman who can't drive by taking her to the store, walking with her brother(legally blind), etc. I can't stand the field service part of her life, but like a lot of JW's I've met she's basically a good person. Surely she may gain some credit for those deeds...
Posts by kzjw
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22Do good works by JWs count for anything?
by greendawn inwe all know that the wts like so many other cults is an exploitative organisation that works with a great depth of deception that's not easy for many to grasp.
but will the works done by jws for this religion count in their favour if they were done in good faith?
at least the ones that didn't directly harm anyone?
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Email to JW wife...
by kzjw inthe battle rages on, i sent this letter to try to give support...what do you think?.
ok, i'm done with the _____thing...but i took the option to participate in going to the kh with you.
i making an effort, but at times you turn away from my questions and you'd never do that to a "book study".
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Well, a week later, I get the response...
First of all let me say I wasn't stonewalling...you have a way of surprising me I wasn't expectng that but in a way was. You seem to be so determine that I know the ins and out of the WTS. All I know is my eyes are open, I'm not walking around in a fog & if it doesn't feel right to me I know how to ask questions. Yes free will does exist with me, as with so many others, yes some in the Hall are more zealous than others. I'm one who's observed the working of things, you may not know it but I'm aware of more then you think. Somethings I can't answer for you,you seem to have all the answers to your questions anyway! All I can say is Jehovah revealed himself to some of the first century christians, not in a literal sense, but in talking to them like Adam,Moses,Abraham. Today we have the Faithful and Distreet Slave Class who supply us with spiritual food (Matt chapter 24) I know you don't follow this but I do. I truly appreciate all that you are doing to keep me inform of the working within the WTS. I follow the teaching of the Bible were we are commanded by Jesus Matt 28:19,20 this is what Jesus did as foretold in Mark chapter 1. We're commision to preach the word, and maybe what's going on in WTS will be revealed in Jehovah own due time because he brings everything to the light. Lets try to build on this relationship, I feel target in my own home not comfortable to read my Bible,Rev bk or listen to my cds...thats not good. My religion has afforded me peace of mind to cope with a trouble heart, but now I can't find that inner peace that I so desperately need. I want to try to save this marriage but I need for you to leave all the WTS alone, and let me find my joy in serving Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ. I'm all over the place, thinking is scattered... just trying to get everything together in my head... have to sort it out before I speak because worde are lkie weapons they wound you.James chapter 1:19,20) so thats all for now. Agape
Do I continue...or back down?
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
by V injust another interesting comment i have received on the watchtower comments youtube channel.
feel free to deconstruct.... .
what is wrong with you?
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Great job with that yung one...your videos matter so much! I've coerced my jw wife into watching a couple, though she "zoned-out" I know she heard them, now I've just gotta get her to listen!
Many thanks for your work, because without it, I'd already be divorced! It's that and the kindness of the JWD members, that may eventually save my marriage by teaching me to be patient and wait on God to deliver my wife...
Much appreciation to you all...kzjw
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Who's got the PDF of the July 15th study Edition?
by kzjw ini'd like to add it to my collection...also, has anyone ever considered offering it to a ms or elder?
do you think it would piss them off?
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I'd like to add it to my collection...Also, has anyone ever considered offering it to a MS or Elder? Do you think it would piss them off?
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Sunday's public talk...
by kzjw inwent with the wife this week for the public talk (i simply will not sit through the watchtower study), the subject was about how poorly governments are taking care of thier people in disasters.
the speaker(who had a british accent) started by saying "burma(myanmar) had 2 tsunamis and the government sent flat screen tv's as aid for the refugees..." needless to say this dillweed lost me for the next 30 minutes of his talk about how man can't care for god's people.
i left during the study as always and returned at the end of the meeting, still burning over the glaring lie told by this "brother" which by the way no one even batted an eye in the congregation!
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Great job, but it's dissapointing that everyone else in the room just believed him. It's not like they will be watching CNN or any other news centre for accuracy. I hope you expressed your displeasure to your wife.
Oh you bet I let her have it...right there in the parking lot...She just gave me the "JW stare" (you know that deer in the headlights look) and then went to her book study! Unbelieveable...
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Sunday's public talk...
by kzjw inwent with the wife this week for the public talk (i simply will not sit through the watchtower study), the subject was about how poorly governments are taking care of thier people in disasters.
the speaker(who had a british accent) started by saying "burma(myanmar) had 2 tsunamis and the government sent flat screen tv's as aid for the refugees..." needless to say this dillweed lost me for the next 30 minutes of his talk about how man can't care for god's people.
i left during the study as always and returned at the end of the meeting, still burning over the glaring lie told by this "brother" which by the way no one even batted an eye in the congregation!
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Went with the wife this week for the Public talk (I simply will not sit through the Watchtower study), the subject was about how poorly governments are taking care of thier people in disasters. The speaker(who had a british accent) started by saying "Burma(Myanmar) had 2 tsunamis and the government sent flat screen tv's as aid for the refugees..." Needless to say this dillweed lost me for the next 30 minutes of his talk about how man can't care for God's people. I left during the study as always and returned at the end of the meeting, still burning over the glaring lie told by this "brother" which by the way no one even batted an eye in the congregation! So I walked over and called him on the "2 tsunami & flat tv's for aid" claim he made during his talk. He responded that he listened to the BBC, to which I reponded that I work in the media and monitor all news sources on a daily basis and his claim of the 2nd tsunami was simply seasonal rainfall! He quickly "adjusted" his story to say the BBC reported that "the rains was building and building..." I interupted his bs and said well "Where did you get the report about the flat screen tv's?" He looked puzzled and said that he used it as an "example" to illustrate his point. By then, the wife came over to rescue him, because she knew that I was pissed...
Do a lot of speakers use these "far-fetched examples" (f*^#-ing lies) to illustrate their points? Do you have a story? I'm dying to here it....
KZJW
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Email to JW wife...
by kzjw inthe battle rages on, i sent this letter to try to give support...what do you think?.
ok, i'm done with the _____thing...but i took the option to participate in going to the kh with you.
i making an effort, but at times you turn away from my questions and you'd never do that to a "book study".
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The battle rages on, I sent this letter to try to give support...What do you think?
OK, I'm done with the _____thing...but I took the option to participate in going to the KH with you. I making an effort, but at times you turn away from my questions and you'd never do that to a "book study". I know I only do the Public Talk, but it's an effort I made hoping to learn more about you spiritually.There's a difference between one's spirituality and one's religion...Therefore, I made a mistake in how I participated in the meetings...I approached it from a spritual perspective, which to me means that God's word is all anyone ever needs. If it does not come from the Bible, then it cannot be at peace with my conciense and beliefs. I believe Jesus died for my sins, God is omnipresent, gave me His message, free will and maybe tomorrow. Beyond that, I nor anyone else on earth can promise me anything. Period. Back to my mistake...In the very beginning of your return to the truth, I was opposed, but silent, because of JW stereotypes I had developed over the years, there I said it. But I also realized the main reason you went back to what was perfectly natural and right for you, was because I failed as the leader when we were going to church. Not that I think going baptist would have worked for us either. Strangely, over time and not wanting to go to church alone and without family, I withdrew from religion alltogether! Tthink about it, I barely touched a Bible for over a decade? Wow! Though I withdrew from religion, I still prayed to my Father and kept my spiritual closeness through His grace and mercy . He has sustained and kept me safe for nearly half a century, kept me faithful in our marriage and I've tried to live in a christian light. Though I'm not part of a religion, I am a very spritual person. The time I've recently spent reading the Bible still feels very familiar, like "home". When I'm reading certain verses, I actually have a total recall of the first time I read it, and that feels good to me spritually. I also spend time studying your publications and though I do see some truths, I know I am capable of finding them independently and soley through my Bible. Would you agree I spent a lot of time learning about what your religion teaches? I know you claim I have "motives" and sometimes I do, but it's also because I want to know you better spritually. Surely you've realized you're more than just a JW? You have free will, you're someone who has thier own ideas, right? You should never be afraid of your ideas. Without fear, your good ideas will thrive and bad ideas will die. Fear of thinking on your own, discussing issues, or questioning authority is the worst kind of slavery, and leads to slavery of all sorts. Free will means we choose...Choose to believe what we will. These will almost never be the same, but we are not so far apart that we can't find and share our own spirituality. Like Mo always says "We are closer than you think." You have to understand that my focus started with the organization because I've seen the falsehoods of catholicism, protestants and even the muslims, so I looked at it's history very carefully. I've spent time at your KH, and I do enjoy the Public Talk, the Friends are really nice and I like them. I trully mean that. The problem is that as a self proclaimed "organization" the wt history shows that prophecies were made by the organization, and those prophecies were not fullfilled. I had a problem there because God's law speaks on prophets very clearly in Deuteronomy 18 (click link) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2018:18-24;&version=9 ; If those verses are true, and the organization did make an unfullfilled prophesy...what would Jesus do? Would you do likewise? I know you tell me to back off and that you've got it, and I'm really OK with you as a Witness...but just be very careful making important decisions based on what the WTS tells you. Take everything with a grain of salt and don't be afraid to question anything - use the Internet, all information is not critical of the Witnesses! I've found JW-friendly sites, I'd love to share with you, they've helped me understand that there are JW's and people like me, who ask questions. The WT discourages any research outside of what the WTS provides, but these people have free will, and they use it! They are still JW's and believe a lot of what traditional JW's believe. I gave you the CD of future Watchtowers through the end of August for a reason. Think about it. Why publish a "private" edition of the Watchtower for Witnesses only? What is the main focus of the collective theme of this study guide? Why are they consolidating the meetings? Do you ever ask a question about a doctrine to yourself that you don't dare repeat to a friend or ask an elder? Or even me? It really is OK to ask... I love you, I feel your spirituality and it is beautiful...I've seen you make wonderful independent strides...I want to see you take it to a higher level, a spiritual level. I want to bring about a more positive connection for us, so you have to start to let me into your religion without fear. I can't turn you away from it, nor would I even if I could. I just want "US"... I love you
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How much do WT & Awake mags cost?
by kzjw ini've heard it said that publishers/pioneers have to pay for the publications they distribute.
what is the price they pay?
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I've heard it said that publishers/pioneers have to pay for the publications they distribute. What is the price they pay?
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WT for sale...
by kzjw inwhen did the wts stop the sale of publications and start "givng them away" ?
also does anyone know what it costs publishers/pioneers for the wt & asleep rags now?
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When did the WTS stop the sale of publications and start "givng them away" ? Also does anyone know what it costs publishers/pioneers for the WT & Asleep rags now?
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Can some one post the link? I appreciate itkzjw