Why are we debating the cosmological argument for god's existence (i.e. first cause), when it is utter bunk?
One can only argue it if one presupposes god doesn't need a first cause, which is illogical. Now, fine, if you want to base your support for god's existence on illogicity, good for you, I am genuinely happy you find comfort in that belief, but don't expect to have your arguments taken as being that reliable or of value for anyone other than someone holding the same unprovable presuppostions.
And just to be clear, saying 'god doesn't need a first cause as he exists out of time' and varients on that theme is a presupposition and not a way of making the cosmological argument in anyway valid.
God however finds a comeback as follows: For matter to exist at all (in a manner that can interact and produce not only Big Bang chemistry and physics but ultimately planets and physical life) we are left with the unsettling conclusion that there must be an observer to collapse the universe else it would simply exist as unorganised potential - in effect life cannot proceeed from disordered potential, life can only proceed from conscious observation. Consciousness must preceed matter not vice versa. God must observe but in order for the resultant creation to have free will any God must then cease observing:
Eh? Come on Qc!! That is like the old and extremely dull thought experiment about trees falling in forests with no one there to hear them. Of course they make a sound, as sound is vibrational mechanical energy that propagates through matter as a wave. You don't need a sense of hearing to be present have sound; any deaf person arguing otherwise would be considered a little off base.
You do not need an observer present to have a Universe, and no amount of dressing it up in cod-physics will change that.
Rather than recycling centuries old bad arguments I find thinking outside of the box man's arrogance has crammed god into rather interesting.
If 'god' is not the first cause, does this mean the idea of 'god' is less important?